Lightning Strike Multistrike Bugfix Incoming

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Mastodonic a écrit :

I also want to point out how GGG has failed the fundamental ARPG test despite all their assertions that they're longtime fans of the genre. They've developed a game where there is a massive gulf of power between ranged and melee. To the point where ranged is the only viable gameplay option and melee lags behind with uninspired fixes, overzealous nerfs and lags behind untouched FotM caster builds.

You have a game where the MARAUDER carries bows and wands. Sweep is a leveling tool at best, leap is a gimmick, LS is apparently a projectile spell and infernal blow is a death sentence.

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Tyronis3 a écrit :

Well, it's offical. Next Patch is changed "Less Melee Damage" to "Less Attack Damage".

I guess it's time to roll Freeze Pulse or Lightning Arrow since those seem to be the only builds you're actually allowed to play in this game.

Thanks GGG

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The only problems melee have in this game is desync, if there was no desync "smart" melee could be played and stacking life would be less mandatory, in return the good physical nodes could be taken and the ranged vs melee damage debate would be over( since clearly physical scales way higher then elemental damage if it was "viable" in current content)

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Mastodonic a écrit :

You have a game where the MARAUDER carries bows and wands. Sweep is a leveling tool at best, leap is a gimmick, LS is apparently a projectile spell and infernal blow is a death sentence.

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bigpieceofchicken a écrit :

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Mastodonic a écrit :

You have a game where the MARAUDER carries bows and wands. Sweep is a leveling tool at best, leap is a gimmick, LS is apparently a projectile spell and infernal blow is a death sentence.

This.
You go to merc Sarn and you see Marauders, this game's signature melee class, carrying wands and bows. How that does not SCREAM to GGG devs how utterly shitty melee is as a end-game option, I don't know.

I remember watching the closed beta vids, before I started playing, of Chris Taylor playing as a freeze pulse/ice totem Templar and I was thinking to myself, this game is gonna be very generous to freeze casters. Generous is an understatement. The one dev vid I watched of a dev playing a marauder. They got their ass kicked and failed the map miserably. haha

-Lighting Strike is only *half* lightning converted. So the current melee reduction already applies to it, w/o nerfing it further. So don't pretend there is no reduction already and MS is a free triple-hit "gimme" for LS w/o draw-backs. Armor scales, and a 40% melee reduction is more like a 60 or 70% reduction when you account for armor ammount vs dmg absorption via scaling. Kripp's got a spreadsheet that shows this well.
-Multistrike already has a whopping 180% mana multiplier cost, so you have to blood magic it to use it w/ pure melee (if there is such a thing).
-LS already has a 30% DAMAGE reduction on projectiles.
-LS projectiles don't track, and can't be shot over ledges, stairs, or through doors [accurately] like caster skills. And almost always miss.
-LS projectiles do not stack on a single target like freeze pulse. So you don't get the 5000dps x 5 like you can w/ the Kripp clone.
-LS projectile spray can not be concentrated by aiming farther away like freeze pulse, fireball, etc.. The angle-arc is so wide, it's almost useless far away, unless you use chain or gmp, gimping the damage further.
-LS projectiles travel out the back of a melee target. So you hit w/ the melee portion, then the projectiles fly out the back, wildly and un-aimed. Yes, you can shift spam and use it ranged. But for best effect, you face-tank and roll the dice.

Does this really need to be nerfed further??