Are Stash Tabs Pay To Win ? Science

Old News, I wrote this in 2012 when they *really were* p2w -- we could fill tabs damn near with regals and alcs with the old recipes...:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/25702

I believe that's one of the reasons they made so many different names because many tabs were a gigantic provable advantage. But not anymore. The extremely varied recipes are too hit and miss, you can still grab some decent orbs with the chrome helper but nothing amazing.
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Dernière édition par Psomm#5110, le 7 juin 2014 à 16:10:43
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TheWretch a écrit :
More importantly guys, do we have enough semantics left to get this thread to 50 pages?


Probably not, but I say P2W, you say not P2W, and we can continue doing that until page 40.
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Psomm a écrit :
Old News, I wrote this in 2012 when they *really were* p2w -- we could fill tabs damn near with regals and alcs with the old recipes...:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/25702

I believe that's one of the reasons they made so many different names because many tabs were a gigantic provable advantage. But not anymore. The extremely varied recipes are too hit and miss, you can still grab some decent orbs with the chrome helper but nothing amazing.


In a way yeah they are not pay 2 win. I can see how no "winning" is happening when you buy extra stash tabs.

Now i have to ask you, you the old player from closed beta.

What do you think of a microtransaction for chaos orb EFFECT on items of ilvl <61?
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/942736

Will it be *really p2w*? A little? Not at all?
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I have a question for other people who regularly farm for the chaos/regal recepies.

My experience farming these orbs has been that I find very few rings and amulets in relation to all of the other gear types. What I do is save the rings and amulets in my stash tabs since i may not find a single ring or ammy in 2-3 map runs I vendor all other useless rares keeping only rares I can sell or craft (if I didnt have the stash space I would store those rares on mule characters just like I had to do when I played D2) and then when I get enough for one of the recepies I just grab some rares on the next map I run and I usually have enough to vendor after 1 or 2 map runs. I get plenty of chaos/regal recepies using less than a single stash tab.

My question to everyone else is this. Is your luck any different than mine when it comes to ring and ammy drops? Are you able to find a complete set of gear within 1-2 map runs minus rings and amulets?

The vast majority of my extra stash tabs is simply me collecting things. Im tryin to get 1 of each unique so I have a tab for every type of unique gear or I have tabs full of stuff to make neat/wonky builds none of that stuff is needed to actually "play" the game its a nice conscience for me otherwise I'd have to sort through a lot of mules.
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Dernière édition par Dethklok#2196, le 7 juin 2014 à 18:35:39
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lllllDethkloklllll a écrit :
I have a question for other people who regularly farm for the chaos/regal recepies.

My experience farming these orbs has been that I find very few rings and amulets in relation to all of the other gear types. What I do is save the rings and amulets in my stash tabs since i may not find a single ring or ammy in 2-3 map runs I vendor all other useless rares keeping only rares I can sell or craft (if I didnt have the stash space I would store those rares on mule characters just like I had to do when I played D2) and then when I get enough for one of the recepies I just grab some rares on the next map I run and I usually have enough to vendor after 1 or 2 map runs. I get plenty of chaos/regal recepies using less than a single stash tab.

My question to everyone else is this. Is your luck any different than mine when it comes to ring and ammy drops? Are you able to find a complete set of gear within 1-2 map runs minus rings and amulets?

The vast majority of my extra stash tabs is simply me collecting things. Im tryin to get 1 of each unique so I have a tab for every type of unique gear or I have tabs full of stuff to make neat/wonky builds none of that stuff is needed to actually "play" the game its a nice conscience for me otherwise I'd have to sort through a lot of mules.


It's streaky, but typically I'm constrained by rings or amulets. Went through a spell where (of all things) boots were the constraint.
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johnKeys a écrit :
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TheWretch a écrit :
More importantly guys, do we have enough semantics left to get this thread to 50 pages?


Probably not, but I say P2W, you say not P2W, and we can continue doing that until page 40.

One thing I can agree with.


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VaultzInex a écrit :

At least you check strangers players account profiles.

you know, it's so difficult/tedious/time consuming, you just have to click on the name .... wow.

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lllllDethkloklllll a écrit :

My question to everyone else is this. Is your luck any different than mine when it comes to ring and ammy drops? Are you able to find a complete set of gear within 1-2 map runs minus rings and amulets?

It's the same here, I just hoard ammy/rings/belts, if I had never bought any stash tab, I would never keep more for the chaos recipe ( actually, sometimes I just ... don't, more and more ).

More than half of the junk that I'm keeping in my stash is just trash in Standard, because I used to find them good enough to be useful to someone and to sell it for an alch or a chaos ... but now, I'd vendor it right away.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
I give this a 8.5 out of 10 for trolling success.

30 pages of text earns you some points so free bump.
Still, I didn't mind buying the tabs because it feels like less than blatant P2W.
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Zindax a écrit :
I give this a 8.5 out of 10 for trolling success.

30 pages of text earns you some points so free bump.
Still, I didn't mind buying the tabs because it feels like less than blatant P2W.


thread's OP is indeed phrased in a trollish way, but that doesn't mean the subject itself isn't up for serious debate, nor does it devalue it in the slightest.
and we indeed had some good discussions here.

I still think Stash Tabs are a P2W element, but one that does not make Path Of Exile a P2W game.
that's an important distinction, but one that pretty much puts me in the middle - between those who say "PoE is P2W", and those who zealously argue that tabs themselves are not P2W.
I disagree with both, and I'm not sure that's a good place to be standing in, in the PoE forum.
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