Are Stash Tabs Pay To Win ? Science

Fun fact: having too many stash tabs can slow you down because you tend to hoard useless shit and play inventory tetris all the time instead of grinding. Stash tabs confirmed for pay to lose :D
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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TheWretch a écrit :
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johnKeys a écrit :
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TheWretch a écrit :
already did. not my opinion, fact. you can do everything with 4 tabs. Its more of a l2p issue really.


everything is a "l2p issue" for the right Black Knight guarding the right bridge.
or was that, living under it?


I cant wait for Act IV. If you had your way they'dbe spending resources on stuff that means little to nothing for most regulars who have a decent PC

(and can run this game to begin with.)

You're redundant and yourpoints are irrelevant.


I like the part where you're trolling me, completely oblivious to the fact Act 4's Particle Effects will make your "decent PC" scream in pain, and Act 5 will make Slayer either rage-quit, or upgrade his Jaguar to a Titan.

unless GGG actually do something with optimization, which you are so much against for some completely unknown reason.
none shall pass.

completely off-topic to this thread, though.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
blablabla my PC will handle it fine, and here's the kicker that seems to fly over your head everytime. let me bold it out for you. IF IT DOESNT I WILL UPGRADE IT. See how easy that was?
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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TheWretch a écrit :
blablabla my PC will handle it fine, and here's the kicker that seems to fly over your head everytime. let me bold it out for you. IF IT DOESNT I WILL UPGRADE IT. See how easy that was?


very easy.
I should follow your example and upgrade my PC for every single game I play too.
oh wait, it's for every single expansion/patch though, was it?

if you are indeed so filthy rich in life, why not buy some crazy-expensive supporter pack? and don't use the points for Tabs. spend them on things that don't give you advantage.
I heard Dropbear pets are kinda cute.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Dernière édition par johnKeys#6083, le 28 déc. 2014 à 16:33:09
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johnKeys a écrit :
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TheWretch a écrit :
blablabla my PC will handle it fine, and here's the kicker that seems to fly over your head everytime. let me bold it out for you. IF IT DOESNT I WILL UPGRADE IT. See how easy that was?


very easy.
I should follow your example and upgrade my PC for every single game I play too.
oh wait, it's for every single expansion/patch though, was it?

if you are indeed so filthy rich in life, why not buy some crazy-expensive supporter pack? and don't use the points for Tabs. spend them on things that don't give you advantage.
I heard Dropbear pets are kinda cute.


They really are <3 god im glad that money was spent on CONTENT.

Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
im by no means rich. Difference being I don't try to blame the world for MY problems. if you cant afford to upgrade that sucks. But that's life. Bitching about making a game run on your shit spec aint going to help you none.
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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johnKeys a écrit :
first, let's get something straight, Jackel:

March 2012 to June 2013, isn't January 2013 to this day. a solid 2 years.
and more importantly, Closed Beta didn't have temporary leagues that merge with Standard and HC - which make you feel the full slap to the face of having just 4 tabs, every time it happens.
and non-Void-League races with their occasional cool finds and rewards? yep.

also - for the sake of your sanity - I hope you were deleting most of your dead HC characters and giving their stuff away, like I was.
otherwise, I really don't know where I'd store my stuff, because even Guild Stash is no longer an option after I filled it up multiple times.
I'm leaving things on the crafting benches in the Hideout, right now.
I'm also having a seriously hard time sorting gems and doing Vendor Recipes in Standard.
doing what is bread and butter for a mostly-solo player like myself.

so like I said, it is a heck of a lot more than an "inconvenience" to not have extra Tabs.
therefore, I stick firmly with my definition they are in fact an advantage. a huge one.
I sure as hell have the right to use that definition, after 2 years of inflicting this punishment on myself. 2 years of deliberately buying stuff that are not Stash Tabs, because I believe they are P2W, and stand out among all MTX and Supporter Packs, in being P2W.

but we'll get to that in a second, because first you have to agree with me they are an advantage.

so, assuming you did - does advantage equal P2W? best answer: depends.

like people here said before me, if you are competing on the ladder and/or hardcore-trading and/or doing anything that requires having an edge on another player/s - Tabs become that edge. one you paid GGG for. P2W.

if you are not competing and just playing for your own leisure, is where I step in and say - from my own experience - not having Tabs can be a chapter in Dante's Inferno.
does that alone make them P2W? no. they are a giant convenience and a huge advantage over someone who doesn't have them, but since you aren't competing with that person - they remain only that. "borderline P2W" if you will, and you aren't crossing the border.

but now you have to remember, Path Of Exile is - by definition - a competitive game.
therefore, the amount of people *not* competing, should be a minority.
so, by virtue of the first case being more common than the second - I can now finally claim tabs are P2W.

mind you, it doesn't make the game P2W.
it's not.
and you can't even begin to compare Path Of Exile to some shitty phone game or crappy Korean MMO, where you have to buy stuff to actually beat the game.
but Stash Tabs vs. no Stash Tabs is - in my opinion - a P2W feature in a non-P2W game. the only P2W feature. in a game and company that literally live off player's money. it would be easier for GGG to go "full P2W". many others did in a similar situation. but they didn't. and they deserve a ton of respect for that.


John, we will have to agree to disagree. I am not going to argue semantics with someone who will not use proper definitions of words.

Everything is "your opinion" but you keep stating them as facts when someone disagrees. Then go on about how you have had it so hard vs everyone else.

This is a complete waste of time at this point for everyone involved, I suggest to everyone to not bump this and just let it die.

I also don't have the time to argue with large walls of text, if it takes more then 4 minutes to write a reply, we're arguing about stuff wrong.

Also, yes this post is like 4 different things at once.
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right!" Henry Ford
Dernière édition par Jackel6672#4463, le 28 déc. 2014 à 16:44:42
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TheWretch a écrit :
im by no means rich. Difference being I don't try to blame the world for MY problems. if you cant afford to upgrade that sucks. But that's life. Bitching about making a game run on your shit spec aint going to help you none.


oh but here's the punchline: I can afford the upgrade, and will at some point.
but care to take a wild guess how many people actually can't - or don't want to - participate in an "arms race" with GGG's sexy partikill effects?
I'm guessing a good percentage of the player base.
don't worry though: you can always co-op with Slayer in Act 6, when there's only the two of you left.

I like the part where you're being selfish, and completely not getting it.
definitely good for the game, sir Black Knight.
"all is fine and l2p" is a wonderful motto for all problems, is it not?
I'm sure you'll be happy to pay GGG's bills.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Dernière édition par johnKeys#6083, le 28 déc. 2014 à 16:43:39
now its just gibberish. Everyone shot down every point you made( as usual). Get some new material.
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
contrary to what you may believe, I'm not here for your amusement.
I'm here because I care about the game, and enjoy playing it.
you're here because you care about yourself, and enjoy trolling whoever bursts your "all is fine" bubble.
and the reason I'm bursting it, is mainly to encourage GGG to make the game better, and - to a much smaller extent - prevent people like you from damaging the game like you otherwise could, with those bullshit "all is fine and l2p" posts of yours.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun

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