Are Stash Tabs Pay To Win ? Science

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Veruski a écrit :

yes, i actually did read them all, sadly.

your claim is that some time = zero time.

this is not true. it's basically as simple as that. you can keep saying it over, and over, and over...but you will just keep being wrong.

you might as well argue that 1 = 0

Good luck with that.

My claim is actually: some theoretical time = zero practical time. Big difference.

it's not theoretical if it can be measured

that's basically the opposite of theoretical.

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Veruski a écrit :

it's not theoretical if it can be measured

that's basically the opposite of theoretical.

That's my point, it can't be measured in a real scenario. The advantage is so small that it drowns in all the other factors that influence someones performance - it becomes unmeasurable.

no, it CAN be measured in a real scenario XD

it takes time to login to mule accounts, it takes time to mule, it takes time to party with the mules, it takes time to put all the shit back into the stash or remove it from the stash

all of these things take time

real, actual time. the kind that can be measured.

maybe you think you are Quicksilver from X-Men, but most of us understand that doing extra things...takes extra time....

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Veruski a écrit :

no, it CAN be measured in a real scenario XD

it takes time to login to mule accounts, it takes time to mule, it takes time to party with the mules, it takes time to put all the shit back into the stash or remove it from the stash

all of these things take time

real, actual time. the kind that can be measured.

Insignificant amounts of time that have no real impact on your performance, especially long term :)

if it adds up to hours, it's entirely significant

i can make exalts in an hour =p

again, it takes, real, measurable time, that adds up to substantial farm over time.

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Veruski a écrit :

if it adds up to hours, it's entirely significant

i can make exalts in an hour =p

again, it takes, real, measurable time, that adds up to substantial farm over time.

Everything adds up to hours eventually. Other factors weigh much more when it comes to performance, and when you look at them as a whole you'll realize that muling is truly an insignificant disadvantage. It would only be a measurable (but still very small) disadvantage if every other factor were exactly the same, but in practice this is never the case and thus the disadvantage becomes none.

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Xavderion a écrit :

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Veruski a écrit :

if it adds up to hours, it's entirely significant

i can make exalts in an hour =p

again, it takes, real, measurable time, that adds up to substantial farm over time.

Everything adds up to hours eventually. Other factors weigh much more when it comes to performance, and when you look at them as a whole you'll realize that muling is truly an insignificant disadvantage. It would only be a measurable (but still very small) disadvantage if every other factor were exactly the same, but in practice this is never the case and thus the disadvantage becomes none.

the practical advantage is many exalts.

=)

but, nice try.

If you have eaten any food over the last month, POE is pay to win. Since you wouldn't be playing POE if you hadn't eaten over the last month, you have to pay to play the game, and hence pay to win.

You all are missing the entire point. Stash tabs aren't P2W. P2W is a design philosophy where you make your game unplayable unless people pay. It's not about "advantages". Stash tabs grant an advantage. That doesn't make them P2W.

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Stash tabs aren't P2W. P2W is a design philosophy where you make your game unplayable unless people pay. It's not about "advantages". Stash tabs grant an advantage. That doesn't make them P2W.

That is an interesting definition of P2W.
It's not the only one.

An equally valid definition is "company sells advantages for RL money", and as you say, stash tabs are an advantage.