The 10% EXP penalty on death NEEDS TO GO

Yes it needs to go for sure. 15% should be the minimum.

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Fruz a écrit :

@Berylstone : maybe you should try to tweak your character so that it will have more survivability, I never die in lvl 71 maps now ... except maybe temple Piety on which I still freak out easily.

It's not an issue about me and my character Fruz. I rarely die, else I wouldn't be level 86 on this game. Though with a bit of lag Piety on the temple map can certainly make me dead.

The issue here is that the exp penality is so brutal that even that freak accident that happens now and then can set me back so much it frustrates the hell out of me. It's just not fun, and has the effect of me avoiding anything where there is even the slightest chance I may die. It's just annoying, and is making me dislike this game I used to love.

If higher-level content was more accessible it might not be such an issue for me. But when I have to spend so much time trying to level in lower-level content, losing 10% of my experience over something stupid becomes more trouble than its worth.

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gathor a écrit :

Yes it needs to go for sure. 15% should be the minimum.

Why don't you just go play hardcore mode then, that way you can lose your entire character when lag kills you.

That ought to get your hardcore rocks off real good.

10% sounds about right to me. Any more is rough, any less is spoon feeding. If you lose 1/2% xp at most when you die, you can just ROFLCOPTER TP and do 10% dmg to whatever it is that kills you, Die, enter the tp you made and make a new one, and ROFLCOPTER in again and do 10% dmg.

10% is fine.

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Cergic a écrit :

10% sounds about right to me. Any more is rough, any less is spoon feeding. If you lose 1/2% xp at most when you die, you can just ROFLCOPTER TP and do 10% dmg to whatever it is that kills you, Die, enter the tp you made and make a new one, and ROFLCOPTER in again and do 10% dmg.

10% is fine.

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I get around 1.5% experience from doing an entire level 71 map at my level. One death cancels out SEVEN of those maps. And you think anything less than that is spoon feeding? It's not like the monsters are just shitting out level 70+ maps either.

I hope this post was sarcasm, but something tells me it was serious. Because there is obviously some room inbetween spoon feeding and then wasting 7 of your level 71 maps every time you die.

And this notion that if you lost less experience you could just keep running and ROFLOCPTER everything to death is just absurd. Even if you just lost 1% experience it would effectively mean if you died just ONCE per map you would probably never level. At least not before you were collecting social security benefits. So to suggest if you lost 9% experience you could just suicide yourself to victory is ridiculous in the extreme.

10% is not fine. It's ok at the lower levels. But once you get into the 80's and 90's its ridiculous.

dontdie/10

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munkytos a écrit :

dontdie/10

That's like saying don'tlag/10. Good luck with that.

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Berylstone a écrit :

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Cergic a écrit :

10% sounds about right to me. Any more is rough, any less is spoon feeding. If you lose 1/2% xp at most when you die, you can just ROFLCOPTER TP and do 10% dmg to whatever it is that kills you, Die, enter the tp you made and make a new one, and ROFLCOPTER in again and do 10% dmg.

10% is fine.

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I get around 1.5% experience from doing an entire level 71 map at my level. One death cancels out SEVEN of those maps. And you think anything less than that is spoon feeding? It's not like the monsters are just shitting out level 70+ maps either.

I hope this post was sarcasm, but something tells me it was serious.

There is definitely some room inbetween spoon feeding and then wasting 7 of your level 71 maps every time you die.

And this notion that if you lost less experience you could just keep running and ROFLOCPTER everything to death is just absurd. Even if you just lost 1% experience it would effectively mean if you died just ONCE per map you would probably never level. So to suggest if you lost 9% experience you could just suicide yourself to victory is ridiculous in the extreme.

10% is not fine. It's ok at the lower levels. But once you get into the 80's and 90's its ridiculous.

When you're at that level, you really shouldn't be dying that often, especially in scrubcore where the economy is fucked up, and you can trade a shavronnes or any other end game gear for a virtual kiss and animated boobs ( . )( . )

It's still a fact that it won't be a "penalty" if it's less than 10%. Maybe at lvl 95, as it was in Diablo 2. Then again, you almost never died at lvl 95 in Diablo 2.

Yeah, any less than 10% is spoon feeding, because guess what? You DIED. If you don't recieve any kind of smack in your face for DYING it's tragic.

I never suggested that people ROFLCOPTER in as it is right now, which is my fucking point - it works. You got to be afraid of dying in Scrubcore as well, and this is the best way of making sure if that.

My suggestion is to drop the issue.

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Cergic a écrit :

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Berylstone a écrit :

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Cergic a écrit :

10% sounds about right to me. Any more is rough, any less is spoon feeding. If you lose 1/2% xp at most when you die, you can just ROFLCOPTER TP and do 10% dmg to whatever it is that kills you, Die, enter the tp you made and make a new one, and ROFLCOPTER in again and do 10% dmg.

10% is fine.

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I get around 1.5% experience from doing an entire level 71 map at my level. One death cancels out SEVEN of those maps. And you think anything less than that is spoon feeding? It's not like the monsters are just shitting out level 70+ maps either.

I hope this post was sarcasm, but something tells me it was serious.

There is definitely some room inbetween spoon feeding and then wasting 7 of your level 71 maps every time you die.

And this notion that if you lost less experience you could just keep running and ROFLOCPTER everything to death is just absurd. Even if you just lost 1% experience it would effectively mean if you died just ONCE per map you would probably never level. So to suggest if you lost 9% experience you could just suicide yourself to victory is ridiculous in the extreme.

10% is not fine. It's ok at the lower levels. But once you get into the 80's and 90's its ridiculous.

When you're at that level, you really shouldn't be dying that often, especially in scrubcore where the economy is fucked up, and you can trade a shavronnes or any other end game gear for a virtual kiss and animated boobs ( . )( . )

It's still a fact that it won't be a "penalty" if it's less than 10%. Maybe at lvl 95, as it was in Diablo 2. Then again, you almost never died at lvl 95 in Diablo 2.

Yeah, any less than 10% is spoon feeding, because guess what? You DIED. If you don't recieve any kind of smack in your face for DYING it's tragic.

I never suggested that people ROFLCOPTER in as it is right now, which is my fucking point - it works. You got to be afraid of dying in Scrubcore as well, and this is the best way of making sure if that.

My suggestion is to drop the issue.

It would not work if they lowered the exp loss. That was my fucking point.

Your argument just isn't grounded in reality. Like I said, even if the exp loss was just 1% you could not ROFLICOPTER your way to victory. Your post is absurd.

So my suggestion is stop making stupid arguments.

Bottom line is losing many days of work due to a lag death is bullshit, and it needs to change. If you want to be punished so badly when you die, go play hardcore mode. Then you can lose your entire character. That ought to make you really happy and you won't feel spoon-fed at all over there.

Some of us however find it quite annoying when we lose a week's worth of fighting over some bullshit.

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Berylstone a écrit :

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gathor a écrit :

Yes it needs to go for sure. 15% should be the minimum.

Why don't you just go play hardcore mode then, that way you can lose your entire character when lag kills you.

That ought to get your hardcore rocks off real good.

Calm down dear. There is nothing hardcore in me. 10% is not a big deal, I think 15-20% would be good. Sure it will take hours of grinding away on higher levels but it will also keep things bit more interesting. Softcore means you can't lose your character but it doesn't mean switch of your brain either. Accept it as it is, learn to survive and avoid doing stupid things. If you can't handle it cry in your pillow a bit, that will help for sure.