Lets talk armor (the stat)

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Fruz a écrit :

150 chaos for a chest with a mastercrafted life roll on it ?
With 4 sockets on it ?
Of course it's not going to sell well .....
( I know, it's more like +76 life at the end, but still )

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pmpindu a écrit :

tryng to sell this item.
Noone wants.

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allbusiness a écrit :

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Fruz a écrit :

150 chaos for a chest with a mastercrafted life roll on it ?
With 4 sockets on it ?
Of course it's not going to sell well .....
( I know, it's more like +76 life at the end, but still )

It's overpriced, but the fact that it's got 2k armor and 70 effective life with decent dual res should net a good profit. Except it's absolute trash compared to unique items and ES gear.

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pmpindu a écrit :

tryng to sell this item.
Noone wants.
Even Energy From Within jewel costs more.
So what i think.
DONT NEVER EVER pick up armor based items.
Just pick up ES based items. Otherwise you waste time.

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Astarte911 a écrit :

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pmpindu a écrit :

tryng to sell this item.
Noone wants.
Even Energy From Within jewel costs more.
So what i think.
DONT NEVER EVER pick up armor based items.
Just pick up ES based items. Otherwise you waste time.

Grace + IR + Belly >>>>>>> Your Armor + Lioneyes + Determination

Thats the whole problem.

a) Determination is crap
b) 50 Life is nothing without any further bonuses
c) Belly + IR + Grace is solid w/o beeing limited to 1 defence

While c) is true, the problem is that pure armor is crap if you try to scale it that way. No, im not gonna waste my Ascendancy class (jugger) just to make it work, lol.

Edit: 5C item, by the way..

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sofocle10000 a écrit :

A bit off regarding Determination, as post 5049 base armour from items (quite easily achievable with Juggernaut Unbreakable with that armour and a Lioneye's) a level 20 Determination nets better investments that Grace + IR (not to mention the pigeon holing of defences as IR implies that you have to rely on Block instead of additional Evasion).

Armour should feel as a more solid layer of defences, so a few adjustments in scaling, adjust Grace to give the same % more Evasion instead of a fixed flat amount, and maybe a change to granite and jade flasks to replace the flat values would do Armour a bit more justice...

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Astarte911 a écrit :

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sofocle10000 a écrit :

A bit off regarding Determination, as post 5049 base armour from items (quite easily achievable with Juggernaut Unbreakable with that armour and a Lioneye's) a level 20 Determination nets better investments that Grace + IR (not to mention the pigeon holing of defences as IR implies that you have to rely on Block instead of additional Evasion).

Armour should feel as a more solid layer of defences, so a few adjustments in scaling, adjust Grace to give the same % more Evasion instead of a fixed flat amount, and maybe a change to granite and jade flasks to replace the flat values would do Armour a bit more justice...

Belly + IR + Grace = 800 Arm + 320 Base Arm + 2575 = 3700 Base + 800 HP (2k Base Life *40%)
Good Rare + Deter = 3700 + 360 HP (200% Life in Tree)

Theres no scenario, imo, where a rare outperforms Belly w/ IR and Grace

Yea, you need to skill into IR, but especially if you are in the south it doesnt cost you much passives. Especially since they opened the Leech wheel at buttom side, the routing to IR is it always worth..