Lets talk armor (the stat)
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I don't do much those "calculations" that you seem to like, I play the game instead, and see for myself.
Getting 20+% MORE EHP against attacks is just huge, for little investment. And it isn't very hard to push it further, while still having plenty of armour. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 10 avr. 2017 à 13:51:00
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" EHP is flat pool and has nothing to do with the entropy based calcs on evasion. If i am capped in block with 5k HP (20k EHP if i do your calculation), can i tank 20k hits? No. The reason why we have an ES Meta is, because 1-shot pool > all. Welcome to the greatest of arenas, Duelist. God is watching you.
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Imo IR is good only for aegis aurora builds only. (since evasion reduces crits, and armor works better against non crits..)
Dernière édition par Andrius319#4787, le 10 avr. 2017 à 14:04:33
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" Keep telling you that. There are very very rare cases of volatile that can do this. And that is basically it. The reason why we have an ES meta is because ES + instant leech + heaps of dps. And yes, evasion does give you more effective HP against attacks on the long run, which is all that matters ( as long as your buffer is big enough, meaning that you know how to build a character ). SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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" I keep telling ? I dont know what game you are playing, but the PoE community talks about this since pre-essence. You are also welcome to check out: http://www.poebuilds.io Feel free to check how much ES builds are there on each legacy league type and what are the most used items. Yea, of course the whole community uses EV/AR builds, cuz they are so super efficient. Kappa. Welcome to the greatest of arenas, Duelist. God is watching you.
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I know, people see some rare videos of streamer dying to a volatile + stars-align scenario ( Volatile is BS, everybody agree there I guess ) and all of a suden; volatiles are a lethal killer at anytime in any situations in the game which is ..... blatantly wrong.
Running all maps unid if I can ... I think that I have never ever died to a volatile, even in late red maps. Apart from that, the one shots are from what ? Oh wait, if not telegraphed, basically nothing ( Well, I remember I_NO getting pissed over a rock, so I am not saying that it can never happen, was probably a stars-align scenario, or the chest armour bug that suposedly has been fixed now. It was also in t16, not saying that there isn't anything overtuned in there ). But I guess players miss position, get blown up in a second by many elements, and then rage quit @"this game is shit, I just got literally one-shot !!!!!" That's a player mistake. ES + VP + tons of dps allows more room for mistake, that's why it is popular, but the trend is also there. Most people just follow the trend, don't ask themselves questions. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 10 avr. 2017 à 23:13:35
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" CI has been king of survival ever since people discovered you could cover up for most of CI's weaknesses relatively easy. It became king of meta once Mathil figured out he could do his fakener build much easier as CI because it was way more point efficient. The rest is history from there. |
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CI's drawbacks have become less and less significant, it has been a while already, yes.
But the "Ouh there are one shots everywhere in the game so we have to go CI and life sucks" mindset that many seem to have here is just wrong. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 11 avr. 2017 à 01:19:11
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" Layers of mitigation mean shit if a hit actually gets through your layers of mitigation as life. Speaking of which, a LL RF Guardian is tankier than anything you can come up with as life that can still reasonably kill most shit in the game (as in, you can do everything all the way up to Shaper within a reasonable amount of time). Has mitigation between armor, block, phys dmg reduction, crazy regen, 15-20k es pool, and depending on flask setups and boots setups, you can have other forms of mitigation also (spellblock from rainbow strides, etc.) |
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I dunno, I think the 1 shot thing basically doesnt exist either. Not counting "lol I got 4k life magic find derpcopter" idiot softcore builds I sometimes play, just talking about proper characters that are designed to survive, in the last 2 years Ive been 1 shot three times. Were talking 5k+ hours played, 3 times Ive been killed in a single hit and 2 of those were vol blood.
This isnt being dickish or prodding people into a trap or whatever, honest serious question, people who feel like theres a lot of 1 shots, what sort of stuff is 1 shotting you? Am I just getting lucky? I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :) Dernière édition par Snorkle_uk#0761, le 11 avr. 2017 à 08:14:45
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