Why is it so hard to 6 link? Why is the probability so low?

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Antigegner a écrit :

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

This game thrives on you wanting stuff. If the hardest stuff was easy, you wouldn't have any wants.

+1

edit: I actually feel like getting a 6-Link has become easier nowadays, but that's just based on my perception and not on facts at all.

it is easier, you can get higher quality on gear in a myriad of ways and we earn currency faster in general.

Its still not "easy" I mean I didn't get a 6l at all this league in a couple of thousand fusings but I always plan my build around a 5 anyway.

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Nishrek a écrit :

Ended up acquiring my 6Ls via trading as usual.

RNG really hates you :D
BTW How you achieved so high quality on the chest?[/quote]

You can do this from a few different ways.

Fossil crafting + benchcrafting.

Or Hilllock syndicate crafting + benchcrafting.

Glad to see people thinking of the possibilities and alternatives :)

Yeah, I really like how flexible crafting has become, with fossils, bench, and chaos rng it feels like you can control some of your "luck" and strive for that specific stat.

I'd be awesome to be able to do that with body armors / 2h weapons as well.
I feel like in every char I'm constantly upgrading every item ever few hours-days, trying to get that extra bit of juice. Probably change items in every slot some 20+ times in the endgame. But chest? hell no. that 1-3 for all run and that's it.

How many times you guys change the body armor slot compared to the others?

Do Carcass and/or Vault for the cards that give you a 6L prophecy? You realize there's other easier methods to get a 6L than dumping 3k+ fusing into it. Or save 4 ex+ for it.

At least for my build, a 6L Carcass Jack would put me in safely farming T15 mode. And for builds, usually upgrading a different slot will net more power gain per currency spent returns.

6L (on an item with stats) should be the absolute last thing you worry about, unless it's another very expensive 5+ ex item. I don't understand why you're making such a big deal out of it. Sure, a 6L is a decent damage/survivability upgrade. But it's more of a commodity and a final prep for endgame, high tier map survivability.

You can absolutely, and not even that difficult, get to T15 and manage without a 6L with stats.

Engelik, you should also realize that really really top tier items will cost you much more than just failed 6L attempt which is just like 2K+ fusings. :-)

And that kind of items still add absolutely lot of power to your build - likely much more than a 6L does.

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engelik a écrit :

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

This game thrives on you wanting stuff.

I get that, but if that "stuff" is much easier to get outside of the game, by a LOT, why have it in the game? It is not fun, or rewarding to do it in-game. It is not fun, or rewarding to do it outside either, but much cheaper.

I can get a 6linked armor
http://poe.trade/search/youbazuorinaku MUCH cheaper and easily than I could ever do it in game. Hell, honestly feels like it'd be much easier to:

- start a new character with 0 currency.
- lvl up and farm some currency
- just but a non-unique 6 link
- craft on it

and I'll have a better, more powerful build than I can by continuing to play and try to 6 link on this char.

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This is frustrating, not rewarding. I feel like I hit a wall, I don't "want" anything anymore.

Sounds like psychological issue, not a game one TBH. "i can get it but i can't get it the way i want". I get the SF point of view there, but not really.

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ThePesmergia a écrit :

Do Carcass and/or Vault for the cards that give you a 6L prophecy? You realize there's other easier methods to get a 6L than dumping 3k+ fusing into it. Or save 4 ex+ for it.

yeah, so why drop body armor as an item then? it the general attitude is "ain't worth it"

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ThePesmergia a écrit :

You can absolutely, and not even that difficult, get to T15 and manage without a 6L with stats.

well, kinda, some builds yes, some builds no. For some, it's just a power boost / extra dmg, for others they make or break the build. This means you should plan for 5l builds, not 6l. with the 6th as an added bonus

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Kasapnica a écrit :

Sounds like psychological issue, not a game one TBH. "i can get it but i can't get it the way i want". I get the SF point of view there, but not really.

There is a bit of perception, yes. I see 6L as a "tool to be used", a baseline to do a build, not just a stats upgrade. I see stats upgrades as, well, the items stats.

But I see that from of the answers that they play around 5l builds and see the 6l as the "ultimate" upgrade. It is something peculiar to POE, since skills come from gems, I see the slots a "Skills" not "Stats".

"The way I want it" that you mention, is well, using game mechanics. I mean, POE prides itself on not selling microtransactions that sell "power" - which I really appreciate.

But when it comes to 6l items, everyone got the same attitude +-, just buy it outside the game, in a trade store it's the way to go, you'll just be wasting currency items by doing it in-game.

Now, if that's not a microtransaction to "buy power", it sure sounds a lot like it. In this case, one that kinda feels required.

Maybe a rework to the loot system could change the perception (I know there is an ongoing discussion about the item drop bloat). 2h weapons/body armor sure as hell make them feel like any other item. But they are not. They are instant "trash" and only picked for the six sockets recipe.

Maybe a different handling of them as loot could change that perception I guess.

took me something like 2 years to get my first 6 link. now, i usually get multiples per league, and thats not including garbage corrupted 6l drops you just vendor for divines.

my max, i believe, in one league was something like 12 6 links. i had all the luck then.

things have gotten so easy that 6 links are basically assumed you'll have, which is probably why its being viewed as a set back by not having it. back in the day it was actually rare and expensive to have one.

also, just to blow your mind, watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDK-lP6lB_8

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DreadLordAvatar a écrit :

Simply, it’s called challenge. Do millennials even know that word?

wheres the challenge in rng?

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Feredhel a écrit :

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DreadLordAvatar a écrit :

Simply, it’s called challenge. Do millennials even know that word?

wheres the challenge in rng?

See what I mean? Hur hur hur...

Son, there’s no difference...we get it every league...40 RNG challenges