Why is it so hard to 6 link? Why is the probability so low?

This is a question for the devs, and to check other players experience.

I think it's far to say that for the average player, trying to 6link an item it's probably the most expensive crafting they'll ever do. Yeah, I know that fossil and synthesis crafting, but that is for those insane, best in-game items. That extra 5 % of defense/power that few can dream to achieve.
6 linked items I would argue that is pretty much something every player more of less plans for.
I play casually, I'm not looking to min-max everything or be the most efficient, but to enjoy the game and experience challenging content. And the few times I tried to 6 link items I just give up out of frustration. This season I sunk all the currency I had, weeks worth of loot, to try to 6-link an item (chest). And nothing. Played a couple more weeks, buy more fusings, try again, and nothing.
So yeah, I just stopped playing since the game just was causing me frustration. No visible progression was made over those weeks, and without the 6 link I could not tackle harder challenges.

Is this the purpose of the low odds? To frustrate the player?

I get that there is a lot of grinding in POE, this is by design, but most of it feels rewarding. It is balanced so that the low odds of something happening give an equivalent high power boost/reward.

6 links it's more like a "checkmark" for most builds, some not even working with 5 links.

6 linking an item is so frustrating that most players won't even try it, and general recommendation is to just buy a 6 linked item and go from there instead of trying to 6 link on yourself.

Why is this? Why must we go outside of the game mechanics and to a item selling website to get something that is craftable, just too frustrating to do so?

And do you as a player enjoy 6 linking items? Do you feel it's rewarding, that you achieved the effort you put in?

This game thrives on you wanting stuff. If the hardest stuff was easy, you wouldn't have any wants. I got bad luck this league too. Spent all my transmutes-fusings trying to 6L. Went through 12 5Ls before quitting.

All part of the game.

It helps to realize that the extra 40% or so you get from that 6th link shouldn't make or break your build.

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

This game thrives on you wanting stuff. If the hardest stuff was easy, you wouldn't have any wants.

+1

edit: I actually feel like getting a 6-Link has become easier nowadays, but that's just based on my perception and not on facts at all.

PoE is a starvation arpg at it's core to make you grind, grind, and grind forever to get good stuff. Always has been and always will be. This pretty much means PoE is mostly for the no-lifers and streamers and not for the casual player to expect to be able to 6 link much or at all. I got lucky a couple years back on the 6L fusing and on my 21st pull of the 6L slot machine hit 3 cherries and a 6L chest but that was my once in a blue moon super lucky roll and I don't expect that to ever happen again. With many posts of the "6K fuses and still no 6L" trying to roll your own 6L is not to be for the casual player. Best to leave that to the no-lifers and just farm currency to buy a 6L. That's another reason GGG makes it infuriatingly difficult is to push us into having to trade for a 6L. After all, who wants to whisper dozens of times and not get any response to any WTB. It's more of a WTF and so trading for most casuals is only done out of necessity and not because we enjoy doing it.

There was a recent thread on this. It is clearly better to use the recipe or buy a 6L then to try and get lucky throwing fusings/currency at a 5L. The recipe is in delve, depth lvl 84 I think but you can Google it. Otherwise buy it. 6L are expensive and difficult to obtain because they are the most powerful offensive tool in the game. Remember when reading a build thread that uses a 6L they got it by buying it usually or crafting it. I got a lvl 48 6L chest drop in a Vaal side last league but the stats are so bad I never use it and since it's corrupted it can't be modified :(

Learning to use poe.trade to properly find exactly what I need took me some time but by manipulating the mods options I can usually, not always, find what I want at a reasonable price or occasionally really cheap. No, the seller won't always respond to your whisper, it happens. I usually follow up with a short note asking if they are interested in selling if they don't respond within a couple of minutes and if they still don't respond after that I move on and search again later.

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

This game thrives on you wanting stuff.

I get that, but if that "stuff" is much easier to get outside of the game, by a LOT, why have it in the game? It is not fun, or rewarding to do it in-game. It is not fun, or rewarding to do it outside either, but much cheaper.

I can get a 6linked armor
http://poe.trade/search/youbazuorinaku MUCH cheaper and easily than I could ever do it in game. Hell, honestly feels like it'd be much easier to:

- start a new character with 0 currency.
- lvl up and farm some currency
- just but a non-unique 6 link
- craft on it

and I'll have a better, more powerful build than I can by continuing to play and try to 6 link on this char.

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This is frustrating, not rewarding. I feel like I hit a wall, I don't "want" anything anymore.

For me it also feels like they fiddled with the 6link RNG since all the new quality craft stuff came.

I cant 6link shit anymore since betrayal league, just getting the 6links from div cards, chests or random drops.

I wish they would just give the 6link recipe to depth 200, 1500 fusings for 6 linking is a lot but at least fair, while 5000 fusings and no 6link is not fair.

This is really the only thing that I hate about the new master system (I otherwise like it quite a bit). It took me two leagues to find the 6-Link recipe. I don't mind paying 1500 fusings, but when you can't find it that is a problem.

I'm not trusting enough to use a service or pay for the 6L craft, so have to find it.

Leveling Vorici was something you could count on over a few weeks to get the recipe. Finding Primeval Ruins? Not so much.

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engelik a écrit :

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

This game thrives on you wanting stuff.

I get that, but if that "stuff" is much easier to get outside of the game, by a LOT, why have it in the game? It is not fun, or rewarding to do it in-game. It is not fun, or rewarding to do it outside either, but much cheaper.

I can get a 6linked armor
http://poe.trade/search/youbazuorinaku MUCH cheaper and easily than I could ever do it in game. Hell, honestly feels like it'd be much easier to:

- start a new character with 0 currency.
- lvl up and farm some currency
- just but a non-unique 6 link
- craft on it

and I'll have a better, more powerful build than I can by continuing to play and try to 6 link on this char.

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This is frustrating, not rewarding. I feel like I hit a wall, I don't "want" anything anymore.

I've never played a computer game I thought was perfect. Always I'd change some things here and there if I could but that isn't the way it is. If I don't enjoy it with the limitations I feel it has then I uninstall it and move on otherwise I learn to enjoy it for what it is. The only thing that matters is fun. In PoE you either have to farm a shit ton or buy what you want and/or craft it. If it isn't fun then move on.

6 links are not required.

The add a lot of power

They are intended to be a chase goal

They are supposed to be like winning the lottery

As such you gamble and win, or loose or just cough up the price for the craft.