Why is it so hard to 6 link? Why is the probability so low?

Cause this game is tarded. By the way if you have an item with 4 max sockets and throw a jeweller's at it sockets will reroll, same used to happen with 6s and probably 6l. Why? Cause this game is tarded.

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I_NO a écrit :

Rule of law is either you accept the fact you aren't going to get a 6L in X amount of fusings don't get mad if you do well you do - If you don't well you don't you don't cry in the forum about it. It's your choice to gamble by accepting that maybe you won't get emo about it.

Or you could 1500 fusings buy the recipe in 820 and be done with it.

But here you are WHEW.

OR you could buy it in raw form WOOO000

"Rule of law"? You realize POE is an ongoing development game with constant balance changes and rules created and tweaked by people?

I designed games for a living for a while, and one of the most important tasks you do to keep the player engaged is to balance risk/reward, when and where you give big rewards/sense of achievement and where and how you introduce the randomness. You fail at that, you lose the player's interest.

I'm trying to have a serious discussion here, if you want to contribute, please do.
You obviously played a lot of hours in this game, so is the experience different for you? Do you feel like you achieved something when you "beat" this particular game mechanic?
If you keep trying to go for some silly personal insults I'll just ignore you from now on.


Any game mechanic will influence how you play the game. For me, this mechanic just seems to limit the game:

- Any body armor item drop it's useless, just stays in the floor > since crafting 6l is too expensive, there is no point in wasting inventory space.

- At begin of any league, I plan to buy the armor outside the game. First an ok 5l, then tabula, then an ok 6l base to craft on. (even doing a 5l is just cheaper to get it outside the game)

- Unique body armors are again pretty much useless (with very rare exceptions) unless they have some crazy/build making stat everyone will either vendor or not even pick them up > this pretty much means 99% of the uniques body armors will never see use. Even those with OK to Good stats. They need to be crazy good to justify linking them.

For me as a player, any Item I found or crafted myself, has an extra value attached to it. "I made this", "I found this". There is some sense of achievement and motivation to try to find better, to craft better.
Buying an item, especially with the clumsy trade system, it is something that you do when you "need", not when you "want". And the current game design seems to point that way. That is "what you do for" 5/6l items. Doing it using the current game mechanics it's either frustrating at best, or "I'm gonna stop playing this game" at worse.

My question is, if you can do everything else in-game (num of sockets, color of sockets, specific stat crafts etc) Why does linking seem to be broken and we have to go outside the game? Can it be fixed so that it is more viable/rewarding?

Getting 6L just takes like 1 weekend of Uber lab farming. I don't think, it's unreasonable.

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dummyacct7 a écrit :

2) Save up around 300 fuses and use them on your 6S item until it hits 5L again, until that magical time when you get the 6L.

This is exactly how i play it, 6L is just a bonus added last. Fighting RNG is just a messy road with alot of frustration.

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phir a écrit :

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dummyacct7 a écrit :

2) Save up around 300 fuses and use them on your 6S item until it hits 5L again, until that magical time when you get the 6L.

This is exactly how i play it, 6L is just a bonus added last. Fighting RNG is just a messy road with alot of frustration.

Yeah, seems to be the general advice everyone gives. I wanted to check if was it just me or just the standard way.

Imagine actually being excited to see a body armor drop with good stats!
Hell, I'd be playing SSF in no time or trying all sort of builds with peculiar chest uniques mechanics.

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Imagine actually being excited to see a body armor drop with good stats!

Like particularly on rare chests, it's quite always better to get 6L chest first from div card or market and then only try to roll it.
It really makes no sense to do it in different way - unless at least 3x T1 on it and 1 of T1 with low probability - e.g. some elder/shaper T1 mod.

I historically have had bad luck in 6 linking anything.
I heard it got easier as now you could go beyond 20 quality on an item (supposedly higher chance to 6L as quality increases) and just 6L it then craft it.

So I fucked around with ilvl 86 chest craft it to quality +46% and still no 6L for me after 600 fusings with 10+ 5 links in between.

Ended up acquiring my 6Ls via trading as usual.

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Pewzor a écrit :

So I fucked around with ilvl 86 chest craft it to quality +46% and still no 6L for me after 600 fusings with 10+ 5 links in between.

Ended up acquiring my 6Ls via trading as usual.

RNG really hates you :D
BTW How you achieved so high quality on the chest?

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Black__Dawn a écrit :

Cause this game is tarded. By the way if you have an item with 4 max sockets and throw a jeweller's at it sockets will reroll, same used to happen with 6s and probably 6l. Why? Cause this game is tarded.

no it does not reroll.
when you get a 6s or a 6l, the rolling will stop. possibly the max number of sockets on an item (ex 5, 4, also)
the reason linking doesn't stop on 4 socket items like helm, gloves and so on is that you might want 2 x 2 links or 1 3 link, as sometimes you don't want supports interacting with all skills in the item - ex increased mana reservation because you add a support for another skill.

on topic: yes, is hard to get a 6L. sinking all your currency into it is kinda silly, since you have many better ways to improve your gear, except the 6L.

one good way to approach this is to buy a decent 6L you need, then farm and try to get your own.

on my MS jugg i got the 6L through the elder helm, which had 2 out of the 5 support skills needed. payed like 1 ex for it when league started and was awsome.

eventually i managed to make my own lorewave, 6 linked it and now i keep the CWDT+stuff on it :)

took me for sure over 1500 fusings, but by that time i had lots of currency from mapping and delving.

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engelik a écrit :

Yada yada

Nope and it will never be buffed so deal with it or you know work for it that works too instead of whining in the forum eh?