How to fix the whole Righteous Fire problem

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h3rp3s a écrit :

OP is another person who hasn't leveled past 66.

There is no problem with RF it is very needed with end game maps.

Melee can have triple as much dps as any RF Caster. Ive seen 90,000K DPS Double Strike.

L2P before you come crying for nerfs.

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

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reboticon a écrit :

Wondertrap is a joke. Goldwyrm is far superior.

If you had 100 IIQ and 150 IIR before putting on boots, and your choices were Wondertraps or Goldwyrm, you'd find 21% more uniques/rares with Wondertraps compared to Goldwyrm, and 15% more currency with Goldwyrm compared to Wondertraps. Since rares equals Chaos Orbs (vendor formula), I'd say Wondertraps have a slight edge if MF is the sole focus. So while I agree with the general assessment that IIQ > IIR, IIQ isn't so far ahead that it can take 3:1 ratios and still come out on top. (If Wondertraps was only 70 IIR you'd undoubtedly be right.)

Judging from the dev responses I've seen, Uniques don't seem to work that way IIR. If they do, please link me to thread. I ran wondertrap + Aurseize for a week, gathered several hundred alts and the chaos recipe quite a few times. Put on Sadima + Goldwyrm, Dropped Bringer of Rain, Abyssus, Thunderfist with 3 hours. Either way, You can't just put on only MF gear and run maps with dual totems. Just can't do it. Goldwyrm has 60% mana regen and up to 50% fire resist (which goes a long way for RF.)

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

Until you run out of Frenzy charges and die.

But I get it now. You've been theorycrafting a life-based, no-ES RF character, and my suggestion rains on your parade. I think you need to get some distance and revisit this topic later; your ready dismissal of skills for potential low-level use is atypical of you.

Unless you carry one of these.

My RF build is already much more survival oriented than most. I go to the Marauder life regen node as well. This lets me get away with running RF with + Chaos damage/ Min max Resistance, or 50% regen. If I get two of them and vulnerability thrown in, I can't run RF continuously, and toggle it on during boss fights, then turn it back off with a flask.

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Boem a écrit :

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That's the whole point. If I wanted balanced gameplay I'd play an MMORPG. Who gives a shit if one build is better than another in an ARPG? The fact that anyone crys for nerfs is appalling. You should be asking for the skills you like to be made better. Why ask to make the game less fun for other people?

I see you dont wanna play a good enjoyable PvP game any time soon.

Dearly noted.

EL OH EL. Have you ever seen what happens if a witch with RF running something besides freezing pulse runs into a cleaver in PvP? All they have to do is pop a topaz and 1 shot with 90K double strike.

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

But I get it now. You've been theorycrafting a life-based, no-ES RF character, and my suggestion rains on your parade. I think you need to get some distance and revisit this topic later; your ready dismissal of skills for potential low-level use is atypical of you.

Oh no, not at all :) I am absolute altoholic, I have more theory crafts than I have time to ever possibly build. I really only had this one lined up on the table to either prove or disprove how disastrous ZO is, otherwise with that off the table I'd be much, much more interested in playing a helicopter next.

My only point about having the theory craft lined up, was that it's not just Shavs low life that could run it (which, it has occurred to me that, in so saying, I might have been replying to somebody besides you.. Don't recall off the top of my head who commented that only Shavs uses RF). The skill in its current form is still useful else wise, and wouldn't be in need of a change if it weren't for ZO.

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tmaciak a écrit :

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lethal_papercut a écrit :

Scrotum I truly loathe almost every suggestion you have for this game & hope that the devs are completely ignoring you as if they implement any of your crap this game is going to go downhill really fast. Horrible.

You are reading in my mind, Papercut :)

Funny, after having read many of Scrotie's posts for the past several months, I am almost convinced I'd play a game he'd design.

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CanHasPants a écrit :

Oh no, not at all :) I am absolute altoholic, I have more theory crafts than I have time to ever possibly build.

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tmaciak a écrit :

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lethal_papercut a écrit :

Scrotum I truly loathe almost every suggestion you have for this game & hope that the devs are completely ignoring you as if they implement any of your crap this game is going to go downhill really fast. Horrible.

You are reading in my mind, Papercut :)

Funny, after having read many of Scrotie's posts for the past several months, I am almost convinced I'd play a game he'd design.

I don't doubt you would play a game designed by Scrotie.
Some other players prefer to have a main, uber decked-out char to pwn end game like true heroes of Wraeclast should, and are not amused by defeating Cruel Brutus or killing Merci Piety for the 7th time with some 'map viable' build.

'Map viable' - clearing a lvl 66 map takes half an hour, you are able to do 50% of map affixes.

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Boem a écrit :

I would like some cool PvP in the future, but that wil only be entertaining if the game is balanced.

And I for example don't care nor about PvP neither about races and don't want to have skills balanced about those. Probably the best would be, if there will be different passives trees and/or skill for those.

And I bet, that majority of players are only interested in high level PvE and it should be main focus of devs.

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CanHasPants a écrit :

Funny, after having read many of Scrotie's posts for the past several months, I am almost convinced I'd play a game he'd design.

I hope, that there will be possibility to crate separate league for those like you. It would solve a lot of problems.

Scotie the strength area is about the only area that deserves elemental adaptation as that area is all about mitigation. In fact there is more %life in the dex area (just nothing meaningful at all).

Mitigation:

More elemental resistance
Elemental adaptation
Reduced increased critical damage
Endurance charges
Armour

High mitigation, slow life return:
Life leech (without vaal pact)
Life regen
Life on hit
Life on kill

So the EA change is a bad idea and doesn't fit the game theme (there is more than the cold (should have been nature), lightning and fire to tree in terms of themes).

I feel so much more is left in terms of mitigation (sort of more options, why is the enfeeble curse intelligence based? and getting evasion and life balanced).

So issues with RF should be done by looking at the skill, perhaps in the end you have to conclude that it doesn't even belong in PoE. If you want PoE to facilitate skills such as righteous fire (and more) than the core game should support it in a balanced way, that might require some serious redesign. The ES changes could work in terms of getting some balance on the skill.

so funny all those guys jump in to defend a broken unique its one thing if you can faceroll in standard noone gives a shit its another if you can faceroll with iir in hc

newsflash guys you can cry and defend all you want at some point shavronnes or rf will be nerfed
and i will be happy to provide the tissues on day x

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ventiman a écrit :

so funny all those guys jump in to defend a broken unique its one thing if you can faceroll in standard noone gives a shit its another if you can faceroll with iir in hc

newsflash guys you can cry and defend all you want at some point shavronnes or rf will be nerfed
and i will be happy to provide the tissues on day x

how about you level a char to 85 before you try to suggest what you think is balanced?

rofl