How to change Jeweler and fusing orbs

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deteego a écrit :

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BazzV5 a écrit :

I see your point of view but it's just so wrong on so many counts.

Its wrong because its not your PoV and you are not experiencing it

Correct it's not my experience but the point is that it doesn't have to your experience either.

Everyone makes mistakes in their first few play throughs but they learn how to do it better along the way.

You my friend, can choose to learn though personal experience, (the hard way), or you can choose to follow the experienced players by doing what they are doing. It's up to you.

But really, this issue has nothing to do with whose point of view is right or wrong...it's about experienced players helping newer players cope with the mechanisms that exist within the game.

Your focus on trying to win a forum discussion is blinding you from the fact that we're just here trying to help make the game more enjoyable.

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BazzV5 a écrit :

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deteego a écrit :

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BazzV5 a écrit :

I see your point of view but it's just so wrong on so many counts.

Its wrong because its not your PoV and you are not experiencing it

Correct it's not my experience but the point is that it doesn't have to your experience either.

When you let me know how to control RNG, give me a buzz

When you wanna learn how to craft a new item, send me PM and say please.

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BazzV5 a écrit :

When you wanna learn how to craft a new item, send me PM and say please.

Again, when you tell me how to control RNG, let me know.

Crafting is pure RNG

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deteego a écrit :

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BazzV5 a écrit :

When you wanna learn how to craft a new item, send me PM and say please.

Again, when you tell me how to control RNG, let me know.

Crafting is pure RNG

Sure is!!

But that doesn't change the fact that the same people will continue to enjoy their self crafted 5L's and 6L's in this league and every other new league to follow.

And you'll still be claiming it's just pure RNG.

Ponder this one before your next reply....are some map mods better than others for map drops, (even though it's just "pure RNG").

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BazzV5 a écrit :

But that doesn't change the fact that the same people will continue to enjoy their self crafted 5L's and 6L's in this league and every other new league to follow.

Because some people are lucky and some aren't. You can't teach luck (or being unlucky)

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BazzV5 a écrit :

And you'll still be claiming it's just pure RNG.

It is pure RNG.

Some people get good items, some people get shitty items. Its completely out of their control

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BazzV5 a écrit :

But that doesn't change the fact that the same people will continue to enjoy their self crafted 5L's and 6L's in this league and every other new league to follow.

Your point being what exactly?

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BazzV5 a écrit :

Ponder this one before your next reply....are some map mods better than others for map drops, (even though it's just "pure RNG").

Im sorry, you started this by apparently teaching me how to craft? What are you going to teach me exactly? Use a divine orb on an item with very good implicit properties? Only use transumations/alterations on lower level maps (if anything?)

Crafing is not something that has any real depth in this game, nor is it something that needs to be taught. The only thing you need to know is how suffixes/prefixes/affixes work and the range of the mods, and thats all detailed in the wiki

What do you think I am doing, running chaos on item that has 6 mods with something like +100 life on them

Your posts are becoming a complete and utter joke, you are a staunch defender of RNG, you just admitted that there are losers and winners, and that you don't have control over that, and now you want to teach me how to craft?

How funny and sad

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BazzV5 a écrit :

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deteego a écrit :

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BazzV5 a écrit :

I see your point of view but it's just so wrong on so many counts.

Its wrong because its not your PoV and you are not experiencing it

Correct it's not my experience but the point is that it doesn't have to your experience either.

Everyone makes mistakes in their first few play throughs but they learn how to do it better along the way.

You my friend, can choose to learn though personal experience, (the hard way), or you can choose to follow the experienced players by doing what they are doing. It's up to you.

But really, this issue has nothing to do with whose point of view is right or wrong...it's about experienced players helping newer players cope with the mechanisms that exist within the game.

Your focus on trying to win a forum discussion is blinding you from the fact that we're just here trying to help make the game more enjoyable.

I don't understand why you are so high on the fence for defending the current craft system? My intentions of this thread are NOT to make 5-6l items readily available to everybody. I do NOT want a system that is too easy. But you telling me that basically I suck and should learn to play this game properly is simply a low blow, to say the least.

I made many characters (CB and OB), I made many mistakes, and I did many things the right way. One thing I do NOT want to do, is level a cookie cutter magic find currency grinder, and make PoE into a job. A job that I have to perform, to get the currency I need, to actually have FUN playing this game.

When leveling a new character, I am primarily focusing on actually overcoming the difficulty (yes, for some builds PoE CAN be challenging :D!). I am not focusing on magic find from the start (I hardly ever do, but that is a different topic). The result is that I am gaining relatively low amounts of currency throughout my leveling progress. Right now this means that I have a stupendously hard time replacing gear along the way, unless I spend more currency then I am gaining. 99% of the found rare items while leveling cannot be used, simply because it lacks sockets.

So my question to you is this: Do you think the system is fine, when people are forced to grind for currency BEFORE actually playing the game?

I am not talking about high end gear. I am not talking about 5-6 links. I am not talking about perfect gems and rare color combinations. I am simply talking about playing this game on an acceptable level.

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Ferumbras a écrit :

I don't understand why you are so high on the fence for defending the current craft system? My intentions of this thread are NOT to make 5-6l items readily available to everybody. I do NOT want a system that is too easy. But you telling me that basically I suck and should learn to play this game properly is simply a low blow, to say the least.

Its what people resort to saying when their arguments are complete shit, or when they don't have an argument in the first place

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BazzV5 a écrit :

Sure is!!

But that doesn't change the fact that the same people will continue to enjoy their self crafted 5L's and 6L's in this league and every other new league to follow.

And you'll still be claiming it's just pure RNG.

Ponder this one before your next reply....are some map mods better than others for map drops, (even though it's just "pure RNG").

Stop talking about 5-6links please, this topic is NOT about that. It is about the difficulty replacing gear for the average player BELOW that (3-4links).

Crafting 5-6 links is fine. You can get lucky, you can get screwed. It is not something to expect, but something to enjoy when you do get it. Maps is a totally different discussion, and there are plenty threads about that as well. This topic is about the inability for average players to enjoy the game while leveling and preparing for higher content.

Walking around with a level 28 2 handed weapon at level 50, simply because that heavy strike / +physical + attack speed + life leech, is always going to outperform double the stats on the weapon itself but only with 2 socks. This is SO incredibly demotivating and plain boring. And no, the 2-3 fusings you find along the way gaining 10 levels is NOT cutting it.

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SL4Y3R a écrit :

Question:

Can you name ONE build that REQUIRES a 6L? Without it, it cannot function AT ALL.

Maybe this topic derailed to this, but 6 linked items is not why I made this thread. I completely agree with the rarity on 5 and 6 links, and I fully support them being extremely rare and valuable. But I do NOT agree with rarity and currency required to upgrade potential better gear to 3-4 links. Nobody with a build focused on surviving Wraeclast (and not a cookie cutter currency grinding build) gains enough currency along the way to maintain 3-4 links on potential upgrades. Thus limiting people to using stupendous low items even when they could have so much more fun.

There is nothing MORE fun and rewarding about games like PoE, then constantly upgrading your gear by personally found items. Right now, the currency and crafting system PoE uses, specifically Jewelers/Fusings, basically makes this impossible.