Why all the clear speed meta hate?

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Why all the clear speed meta hate?

• guild chat completely empty 2 weeks after league start because everyone else has literally done everything
• 99.99% of all drops are garbage in a trade environment because 30 second full map clears grant jillions of drops
• new content inaccessible (lol Breach domain timers)

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adghar a écrit :

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Why all the clear speed meta hate?

• guild chat completely empty 2 weeks after league start because everyone else has literally done everything
• 99.99% of all drops are garbage in a trade environment because 30 second full map clears grant jillions of drops
• new content inaccessible (lol Breach domain timers)

I don't personally Hate the clear speed meta, but that doesn't stop me from making fun of it and all of the disadvantages that go along with it

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Tarille a écrit :

Well... Some reasons can be:

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- It's hard to avoid it. Unless you play crappy skills in a 3L only. There's so much power creep it's hard NOT to be ridiculously screen clearing.

- It affects the economy regardless of what you choose. I mean, Mr Casual playing slowly vs a hard core meta whore spamming like 6-7 maps an hour. Who's going to have more loot and currency to make them sell their loot for higher prices?

If trading is a core part of the game design (Which it seems to be, despite how garbage the system has been implemented), then it will always be in favour of the people who farm the hardest.

- It can be hard to knowingly gimp yourself. Like, there's likely a good amount of ARPG players that love to min/max. It's one of the appeals to ARPG's, is that they generally offer a lot of room to min/max, be it build choices to the minute details of making sure all your gear has 100% perfect stats.

However, how does one go about min/maxing, if even a half arsed attempt at building would lead to OP levels if you understand generally the mechanics of the game?

Why is "People should have a choice" only relevant when defending the clear speed meta? What about min/maxers who want actually challenging content to utilize their min/maxed builds in without completely wiping the floor with it?

I mean honestly, they could literally balance the game to be a lot slower and then just give a CSM league option where the entire passive tree is made out of "You deal more damage with everything" nodes and everyone is invincible and permanently using Speed Shrine. That would actually give people a choice between the multitudes of playstyles that want a slower game, while retaining "Lulz I do 10000000 million deeps and clear Strands in 0.0001 femtoseconds" gameplay for those that enjoy it.

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CaptainWARLORD a écrit :

Monsters have lost their value. They really have.

They are no longer referred to as monsters but as "trash". Which, by itself, speaks a thousand words.

That doesn't mean that monsters should hit hard, no no. In fact, I still feel some could use a little downgrading.

However, it just shows that players have gotten far too powerful with specific items. It no longer is about fighting for your survival, it's all about how fast you can clear map X and how fast you can erase boss X.

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CaptainWARLORD a écrit :

No classic crowd-control, no classic healing spells.