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Fruz a écrit :
It's very simple.
As others have pointed out, very good players can reach the same level as you, in about 10 times less time, less than a day.
Some might be able to reach lvl 80 within 15 hours to be honest.
Answer: If I where that slow I would just quit the game! LOL
I take 38-40 hours to level up a char from level 1 to 79-82. Is that good enough?
If not, to level up a char faster will give me end game? not.
Will give me some advantage then? not, only clear speed practice. oh I see :o
I will explain this:
I spent too much time trying to get end game in my chars, testing builds and doing end game areas, not leveling them!
I did not needed to create many chars because I farmed too much currency and did respec passives and ascendancy to test other builds. even some bandits where repec on my raider. I got many currency farming.
If the game does not allow one to get good uniques, how do other people find them ?
Answer: good question! but I dont know, because Im not GGG. You should ask them because I did everything right, followed good guides...
Mathil, Demigodking, LiftNerdBro, some of the best PoE players made these guides. If you think they are wrong or they dont know this game, talk to them.
Just stop acting like I am a newbie because I dont. Just because you are sucessfull in this game does not mean the game is perfect and its all my fault, because its not!
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Posté parCrisFenix#5279le 16 mars 2017 à 05:47:30
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CrisFenix a écrit :
Why I need to have many high level chars if I can respec them and test another build, even ascendancy points? If you talk about knowledge or experience earned, the game is giving a damn for it and just one shot kills you. Forget about your auras, curses, charges or 10-15k of EV AR or ES
I focused on 3 chars and tried very hard (scale expectations) to reach end game and none of it worked. The fourth char was an occultist, even worse results.
A waste of time. Players are just "farming machines" for currency in this game. Someone gets endgame? are they happy with their results? who cares!
So you are basically spending all of your currency on Regret Orbs, because there is no other way that you could get so many builds working on just 4 characters. That, and also you had to only play those characters for like few hours (which doesn't go well with 1000 hours spent), so that you don't actually level up. Sounds fishy, if you ask me.
If I were to guess what really happened is that you are constantly trying to force your characters into late game, while they clearly are not making it. You die a lot, lose a lot of exp, and never quite get to level up. And that over and over again. And hear me out here - I've been there. :V
You still lack a lot of knowledge and experience to reach end game, it seems.
Again, I'm not the best of players (or the most efficient - I sometimes even play inefficient builds on purpose), but I'm still waaaaay over your efficiency.
Too bad you deleted all of your characters, because if you had them, we'd be able to pin-point the mistakes you've made. That way you could improve (if you really wanted to), instead of creating thread on forums about you not being able to reach end-game.
So no, game doesn't need buff to drop rates. The problem was on your side.
If they were to buff drop rates, people like me would swim in loot, and that would make our experience terrible.
Maybe this game is just isn't for you?
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You are trying to force me to say that all of this is my fault and you are accusing me unfairly and without evidence, because you do not know how I played or what guides or friends I have inside PoE community.
The idea of saying that this game have flaws is melting your brain? do you even READ what I write? So read this: THIS GAME HAVE MANY MANY MANY FLAWS! YOU ARE THE NEWBIE HERE PAL!!
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Posté parCrisFenix#5279le 16 mars 2017 à 05:59:41
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MakDog a écrit :
"Please define efficient"
Killing mobs quickly, knowing what to pick up or not to pick up, knowing when/how to spend currency on maps and/or gear (if not playing SSF, and using trading).
"Why I need to have many high level chars if I can respec them and test another build, even ascendancy points?"
Because people who enjoy this game, and enjoy farming and getting loot, generally enjoy using the loot they find in different characters and build set ups. Yes you can re-spec ocassionally when they change the passive tree on patches. But many people are much more "efficient" than you are.. In example, not taking around 250 hours to level a character to level 80+ ... doing it in 25 to 50 hours is pretty easily doable for players acquainted with the game. 25 to 50 hours is approximately 5 times as fast, to 10 times as fast as you are claiming to take to level up your toons. Do you think you would still have such bad gear (in your opinion) if you had 5 to 10 times as many drops?
"the game is giving a damn for it and just one shot kills you."
Yes, Wraeclast is a harsh world, a harsh environment. It is very very possible to get "one-shot" (or more likely, spike damaged down very quickly, 1 to 2 seconds) As many others have stated already, you simply just need to be better at the game. With 1,000 hours of gameplay, you should have experienced many deaths, and hopefully, when you die (especially in Hardcore! But losing XP in Normal/Standard is a hefty penalty as well)... When you die, you should take note of what killed you, and how, and try to learn from it. If you got elemental reflect damaged, then you should learn to notice when mobs have elemental reflect, and then seek a way to *NOT* die to it. Really CrisFenix.. it is as simple as that. Get better at the game.. if you are 1,000 hours in, and getting one-shot all the time, and you can't figure out why, then I don't know, but if you aren't having fun anymore, then that is totally OK, maybe the game is just not for you anymore. Getting an amazing unique or two isn't going to make you just *magically* unable to be one-shot anymore. That largely comes down to player skill/knowledge.
"A waste of time. Players are just "farming machines" for currency in this game."
Yup, you nailed it. This game, as is ANY and EVERY other video game, TV show, movie, book, etc... are a "waste of time" in some sense! Lol... If you are not having fun any more, then it is totally OK to chalk it up "waste of time" and not fun anymore. But yeah, you nailed it man. People play this game with the EXACT intention of being a "farming machine"... farming loot, farming currency, farming experience and levels. That is THE point of the game. If you don't think it is fun, I suggest you don't keep playing. Or if you want to keep playing, I suggest doing everything you can to be more "efficient" .. If you can double or triple your productivity when you are in game, that would be awesome for you! You would have a much beter chance at getting that loot you want :)
BTW for anyone reading, I don't know for sure, but it seems like English is not CrisFenix first language.
None of above. You are wrong dude. just read the topic
By the way: you have completed just 3 challenges on Legacy! I HAVE 10! DID YOU NOTEST THIS? YOU ARE NOT EFFICIENT AT THIS GAME! I AM! AND MANY DAYS BEFORE YOU! Feelsbad!
Dernière édition par CrisFenix#5279, le 16 mars 2017 à 06:11:21
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Posté parCrisFenix#5279le 16 mars 2017 à 06:05:17
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As I said before, if you were running end games areas properly, you would not have stopped at level 82, and definitely, definitely not with about a thousand of hours invested in the game.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Posté parFruz#6137le 16 mars 2017 à 06:16:44
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Fruz a écrit :
"I took like 30-40 hours to level each char I had"
"After one year and half playing this game I have created 4 chars and level them up to 72-82 each. I have put in this game more than 954 hours of my life,"
Make up your mind, because something seems very wrong here, honestly.
Good players experience most of the game without chain ripping, and that makes their character higher level than 82.
And if you have never gone past lvl 82, no way that you have acually experienced and therefore know the exp curve at level 88 ( since you were answering a message where he was mentioning level 88 ).
Zeno gave up for "much less" ??? what ?
No .... really not, he left for other reasons, not because he was not able to progress past level 82, or unable to get basic gear for comfortable mapping.
Ok, I think you need a break dude :o
Read the topic. says that I was not able to get end game (and pass from level 82)
I never said I know the xp curve at level 88 (maybe I know, I learned many things)
What are you talking about? lol
Zeno? No. Everyone says that, but Zeno left because of broken economy. I saw many streams of he raging like crazy at traders/buyers and saying "I just cant take it! This economyyy!"
Really good player..
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Posté parCrisFenix#5279le 16 mars 2017 à 06:26:55
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Serious how can post like this get more feedback then the real "suggestion posts"
There is a way to convert a SSF char to the normal leauge your in, so your already making a problem about another problem.
And you could join a guild or get some friends to help you in the new leauge.
Path of exile is a great game where you have to use ur brain instead of just auto walking and reading text like i feel how every game these days turning out to be.
I can understand your pain, but like 4 chars of lvl 70-80? and 1,5 year of playing?
Dude i have like 30-50 rips since 2013 i dont even remember just delete those standard chars right away if you dont wanna be sad about it.
Can be good to keep em and try other things out in standard so you can pratice out why you died, and learn about it.
Enough said.
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Posté parZunbreak#3993le 16 mars 2017 à 06:39:36
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forum bug, everything vanished ... oh well, so quickly :
- You said that you level up faster than Perq ........ but you have no actual knowledge of how much time it takes from 82 to 88, you have never been there.
In short : no you don't.
And Zeno left because of valid concerns : the trading system.
You are leaving (or saying so at least) because you were apparently stuck with bad gear, and you haven't gone past lvl 82 after about a thousands hours invested.
Which means that you were either not playing your characters, or chain dying with them ( => there were big problems either with your characters or your playstyle ).
If you were actually really mapping "properly", you would have gained currency, and items, and you would definitely, definitely be at a higher level.
By the way, taking a break ?
I'm not the one that deleted his character out of rage here.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 16 mars 2017 à 06:49:32
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Posté parFruz#6137le 16 mars 2017 à 06:46:13
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CrisFenix a écrit :
You are trying to force me to say that all of this is my fault and you are accusing me unfairly and without evidence, because you do not know how I played or what guides or friends I have inside PoE community.
The idea of saying that this game have flaws is melting your brain? do you even READ what I write? So read this: THIS GAME HAVE MANY MANY MANY FLAWS! YOU ARE THE NEWBIE HERE PAL!!
Nobody is forcing you to anything (how would we do it, anyways?). Feel free to clown around pretending it is GGG's fault for your mistakes and failures. :D We have evidence, we pointed it out. You chose to ignore it.
But hey, seems I'm a newbie here. Damn! Time to get back to my level 94 character to wipe my tears of newbyness. :CCCC I think my Disfavor will take those tears just fine! (among other stuff)
Ayyyy lmao.
Ps. Zeno was hardly a good player. Nothing against him personally, but there are far better players than him.
Pss. When I think about it, I had a small chit-chat with Zeno on reddit some time ago. Funnily enough, he shares your attitude towards making mistakes - he never admits any mistakes and always blames everyone around him. If you are interested in what he said exactly, I can link you up something (not on forums, tho).
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Dernière édition par Perq#4049, le 16 mars 2017 à 08:50:08
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Posté parPerq#4049le 16 mars 2017 à 08:30:46
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The only thing SSF needs is a rework on divination cards. Some are so rare and give such garbage items and make SSF kinda too hard to create something you'd want. This is not inherently SSF problem, but the system/chance of dropping those certain build enabling uniques. I posted that on my thread about div cards rant.
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Posté parMajmuneGru#3387le 16 mars 2017 à 08:36:14
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Dr1MaR a écrit :
Do you realise that for some people it takes 3-4 days to level up 4 characters to lvl 72-82? Do you realise you are not investing enough time for this game to gear up your character the way you want it? Waiting months to drop 1 exalt orb, you must be playing either extremely slow or like 30 minutes a day if not less. I don't despise casual players but people like you stun me. You don't want to invest time in the game neither you want to get good at it, you just want everything achieved in an easy way. You should rename this thread to:"I don't have time for this game please give me shit for free or I never come back".
Do you realize that I have played 954 hours on mainly 3 chars? I have invested more time in this game than any other game I have played before and I just obtained garbage uniques! How good is that? You enjoy play all day long and get only garbage? Not me. If you dont work and can play this game all day long, good for you. I dont want shit for free, I want good shit playing 3 or 4 hours per day! Because I have a life
If you value your time, play faster. That s what experienced players do. Time is money, the faster you clear content, the more loot you get, it's really a nobrainer logic. 3 characters and didn't even reach lvl 90? With 954 hours? That's super slow man, git gud
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Posté parDr1MaR#1294le 16 mars 2017 à 09:26:27
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