Why Im quiting PoE until SSF gets better drops

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Had to check the date of your post here.

Me too! I have a nice 5l es chest for mid tier for sale for several chaos in legacy. I do remember when this was the case but not in a long time.

Although why trading prices would matter to a SSF player is the real question.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

- get one shot killed by tricky maps or merciless Izaro. I dont understand why, why should I level up and invest on a char to die like a piece of paper? why a ranger with 14k EV and chance to dodge is one shot killed? why a witch with 7k ES is one shot killed? enemy have crit chance and crit multiplier that mulitplies their damage at a giving moment, killing you like paper? oh yes! great! I like to die and spend hours playing for nothing! thank you PoE! I will comeback for more of this! RIP

Because you most likely lack physical mitigation, as simple as that.
Get used to be killed by physical damage, if you insist on playing ES based characters - that is not the games fault, but your own for not having the appropriate defenses.

I am always baffled that so many people are complaining about being "one shot" and most of them (from what I have seen) are playing the usual ES-stacking builds without any sort of physical damage mitigation at all.

I am playing SSF HC myself and it's going smooth, even though I am playing a life based melee character, which so many claim is inferior to ES ... I always have to smile when I read such posts.

I'd suggest you broaden your horizon and play a life / armor / endurance-charge based character and see for yourself, how resiliant you can actually be, without relying on purely stacking ES.

Do you realise that for some people it takes 3-4 days to level up 4 characters to lvl 72-82? Do you realise you are not investing enough time for this game to gear up your character the way you want it? Waiting months to drop 1 exalt orb, you must be playing either extremely slow or like 30 minutes a day if not less. I don't despise casual players but people like you stun me. You don't want to invest time in the game neither you want to get good at it, you just want everything achieved in an easy way. You should rename this thread to:"I don't have time for this game please give me shit for free or I never come back".

Harsh but probably true. I've been playing SSF since Open Beta, and sans deleting my first character I've now got 1 at 88, 1 at 86, one creeping up on 80 as SSF and one more on the way up from 60. I know that the stuff I read about and see is because people play 10x more than I do in leagues in full parties, with way better gear and meta builds.

So I take pretty much all drops in stride because I accept I'm playing PoE in the least efficient way possible, based on how it's designed and what it's designed for.

Btw, I've gotten 3 Exalts in at least 1000 hours of play.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

- droping garbage uniques to sell for cheap. doing maps with mediocre results, always.

- waiting for months (sometimes) to drop one exalted orb. and this exalted will not solve your problems because you cant buy even a rare 5L body chest with it!

- broken economy: as I said above, that 6L unique body chest you need for your build will cost much more than one or two exalteds. GGG says "a new league with a fresh economy" what it means? for me, it means four times the price of standard league. It means that I will not get the gear I need. It means I will get stuck on the same tier maps and nothing will happen.

This isn't the fault of the economy. This is the fault of the player aiming too high. If you go into the game expecting to run a LL/ES build with Shav's and Skyforth right off the bat you're going to be seriously disappointed because rare things are rare and good things are expensive. Also, if you play SSF like you claim to none of this will matter since anything trade-related is irrelevant to SSF. Sure it sucks that I can't get a Legacy Kaom's and a Headhunter on my life build, but them's the breaks. I fully geared my summoner this league, including uniques and jewels, for about 50 chaos (and half of that was the unique body armor) because I kept my expectations within my budget. I knew I wasn't going to be rolling around with best-in-slot gear and mirror-worthy rares two weeks into a three-month league and I planned for that. If you think you need a 5l chest that's an exalt you're aiming way too high because 5l chests with less-amazing bonuses are a chaos a dozen.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

- get one shot killed by tricky maps or merciless Izaro. I dont understand why, why should I level up and invest on a char to die like a piece of paper? why a ranger with 14k EV and chance to dodge is one shot killed? why a witch with 7k ES is one shot killed? enemy have crit chance and crit multiplier that mulitplies their damage at a giving moment, killing you like paper? oh yes! great! I like to die and spend hours playing for nothing! thank you PoE! I will comeback for more of this! RIP

I'm reading common rookie mistakes in this post. Lemme run down the points.

Evasion is not foolproof and neither is Dodge. This is why it's considered a secondary defense by the players, meant to be used in conjunction with other defenses like Block and physical damage reduction. Evasion and Dodge are percentage chances to avoid taking a hit. You better have something in store for when that die roll isn't in your favor and something does hit you. If you don't, that's your fault.

7K ES is not a whole lot for a mapping-level character. In fact, it's really bad for a CI character. 8-9K ES can be achieved with ease using budget gear - I know, I did it last league. Even then ES won't make you invulnerable since you're susceptible to chip damage and really big spikes, so you'd better learn some manual dodging to give your ES time to regenerate in between smacks. And don't even consider face-tanking bosses until you've got 15-16K+ ES plus Ghost Reaver and Vaal Pact.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Like all average players, I got skilled, learned many things, followed guides, did so much research, theory craft using planner or path of building, used vendor recipes (chaos orbs too), saw many streams on twitch, etc..

Problem is: after a long time playing you dont evolve in this game. You get on the same point you was on the beggining:

As a player, I just cant enjoy my char at end game. Even if I "dodge" tricky maps, I will not get the gear I need to progress, because of bad drops and broken economy.

PoE takes a long time to be good at. I've been playing for about 4 leagues now. Each time I find I get a bit better, push a bit further. Last league I struggled to 90 over the course of two months and could barely sustain Tier 7 maps. This league it's 2-3 weeks in and I have a character at 87 already, running sustained Tier 8-9 and getting set up for sustaining Tier 11. Again, learning to play within your means and capabilities is important, and seems to be the component you're missing. Make a simple but effective character to get to maps. Use that character to farm for a better but more expensive character. Have reasonable expectations about what you'll get - Just because a build claims to be cheap doesn't mean it is (case in point, I remember seeing a 'budget' summoner build using United in Dream) and just because someone else is really good with a build doesn't mean you'll be.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

After one year and half playing this game I have created 4 chars and level them up to 72-82 each. I have put in this game more than 954 hours of my life

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but you really need to learn to play the game smarter, not harder. I don't have quite as much time as you do in the game but I have way more than 4 characters and several in the high 80s. Two weeks into a new league and I have an 87, which is considered slow by the real elites of the community. I learned how to play smarter, how to play builds I like, and how to rush through the less-enjoyable content to get to the stuff I want to do. Time efficiency. It's certainly not a style for everyone, but it really helps with this problem.

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From start of legacy SSF till now.


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SSF char like 4 days old lvl 88 atm.

Game is fine if you know what you are doing.

Peace,

-Boem-

lol sure 'games fine'. you have to either- es/ci, range, totems or necro. so that you never experience those wtf one shot moments, which gary had the cheek to say outgear it. problem is no matter how much we gear one shot is real. feels bad man the pain that toon you worked weeks for to be one shotted like nothing.

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EdenRage a écrit :

lol sure 'games fine'. you have to either- es/ci, range, totems or necro. so that you never experience those wtf one shot moments, which gary had the cheek to say outgear it. problem is no matter how much we gear one shot is real. feels bad man the pain that toon you worked weeks for to be one shotted like nothing.

It must have been a wise man that suggested you play the most gear dependent arche-type(= melee) as a first character in a SSF environment.

And i could actually play a melee if i wanted now in SSF.


I consider "don't go melee early in a league" as part of the "know what your doing".

Peace,

-Boem-

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Tian_Yihao a écrit :

Nonsense complaints except for the monster damage, i actually quit temporarily in hc(perhaps permanent, will know after 3.0.........) due to the huge imbalance of output dmg with certain map mods and the feeling of being forced to go CI when i dislike playing it.

It seems that everyone who created a char in legacy won 2 exalts, including me. I suspect this is a little help (from GGG) to improving the economy of a new league? But these 2 exalts dont help when buying a item that costs 6 or 8 exalts.

You say it is nonsense but I never got half of good items than you and probably I played the double. Its ok, one more reason to not play this game.

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Peterlerock a écrit :

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CrisFenix a écrit :

- waiting for months (sometimes) to drop one exalted orb. and this exalted will not solve your problems because you cant buy even a rare 5L body chest with it!

Had to check the date of your post here.

I paid 1+ Ex for a 5L in the past, but that was a long, long time ago. 7-8 leagues ago.

Today, you get your 5L for 1-2 chaos. I don't even bother to pick them up anymore.

Well, search poe.trade for a body armour with minimum 700 ES and 5L in Legacy. You will see many Vaal Regalia priced on 1 exalt but last week was 2 exalts. One with 6L was 6 exalts, but now costs 7 or 8.

The shavrone 5L was 8 exalts and the 6L was 18 exalts.

You can get a 5L for 1-2 chaos for low level char maybe, like level 35 to 55