Why Im quiting PoE until SSF gets better drops

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Zunbreak a écrit :

Serious how can post like this get more feedback then the real "suggestion posts"

There is a way to convert a SSF char to the normal leauge your in, so your already making a problem about another problem.

And you could join a guild or get some friends to help you in the new leauge.

Path of exile is a great game where you have to use ur brain instead of just auto walking and reading text like i feel how every game these days turning out to be.


I can understand your pain, but like 4 chars of lvl 70-80? and 1,5 year of playing?

Dude i have like 30-50 rips since 2013 i dont even remember just delete those standard chars right away if you dont wanna be sad about it.

Can be good to keep em and try other things out in standard so you can pratice out why you died, and learn about it.


Enough said.

Ok, lets clarify something: As I said in the post, I did not get end game on my chars because of:

1. garbage uniques drops
2. broken economy AKA ultra-expensive prices
3. one shot kills (that dont allow you to complete the map)

And thats it.

So, Im not sure, but I spent ~ 954 - 500 = 454 hours trying to get end game and good uniques that would enhance my builds and let me complete high tier maps, on 3 chars. I tried many many things, none of them really worked. mobs just win.

If I cant do higher level maps, I cant get better drops and the uniques I need or drop exalts to buy them. This is why I want better drops in SSF an item migration retired: GGG will not aloud players to just drop these uniques and migrate the char to trade them in another league!

And, I never said that I have played on SSF. Where did you read that?

"Quiting PoE until SSF gets better drops" means if SSF gets better drops I will play PoE only in SSF. If not, no. Is SSF or nothing. I refuse to play standard or any other league in the future that have garbage uniques drops and ultra-expensive trade.

Enough explained. xD

SSF has totally balanced time/reward it's so fulfilling and satisfying especially when you farm lab for 1/360+ helm enchants. By level 94 in breach league I found under 100 offerings so by the time you reach level 100 you might be able to find enough offerings to get the uber lab enchant you want. And when you upgrade your helmet or change your build you start all over, it's great!

Please kill me

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Vhlad a écrit :

SSF has totally balanced time/reward it's so fulfilling and satisfying especially when you farm lab for 1/360+ helm enchants. By level 94 in breach league I found under 100 offerings so by the time you reach level 100 you might be able to find enough offerings to get the uber lab enchant you want. And when you upgrade your helmet or change your build you start all over, it's great!

Please kill me

LOL! I could not get uber. Poverty and bad luck.

How are your characters so low level if you put in so much time? I think I'm around 500 hours played all SSF, 5 highest lvl characters: 89, 85, 80, 79, 78

2 of those are from more than 2 years ago when leveling was a lot slower.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Ok, lets clarify something: As I said in the post, I did not get end game on my chars because of:

1. garbage uniques drops
2. broken economy AKA ultra-expensive prices
3. one shot kills (that dont allow you to complete the map)

And thats it.

I'm a long-term casual player much like yourself. What you're complaining about is real, and the elitist endgame mentality that produced it is not going to change. You can either quit, jump on the DPS-uber-alles bandwagon, or forge your own contrarian path.

If you examine my stable of level 85+ Standard characters, you'll find a variety of original melee builds using a broad assortment of build-enabling Uniques. Some are Legacy, some cost as much as 8 Exalts, but virtually all of them were acquired through trading. The only Tier-1 Uniques that have dropped for me were Soul Taker and Belly of the Beast. The commonly available Uniques came mostly from my Guild's stash. The rest came from grinding yellow and low-level red maps.

My builds all have around 4.5-5K HP, though one is a hybrid with 2.5K ES. None have more than about 50K tooltip DPS, most less than 20K. They all routinely solo level 12+ maps, but Chiseled & Alc'ed yellow maps yield faster XP and gobs of loot. None of my builds have ever seen Uber Izaro, Atziri, the Council, the Guardians, or the Shaper. While those battles are no doubt exciting, they're IMO stat-inflated pseudo-PvP cage fights spoiled by cheesy one-shot gimmicks and OP boss immunities. I'd much rather tank the hordes with underpowered but tough and versatile brawlers that rely on tactical skill to survive, rather than faceroll the game with crackhead clearspeed exploits. When you lack that kind of firepower, a robust defensive strategy requires just about every damage mitigation trick you can pack into a build.

But that's just me and my reactionary anti-Meta obstinance. If your game is all about those Tier-1 trophies and endgame bosses, I'm afraid SSF is just not meant for you.

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RogueMage a écrit :

But that's just me and my reactionary anti-Meta obstinance. If your game is all about those Tier-1 trophies and endgame bosses, I'm afraid SSF is just not meant for you.

Thank you for this. If you want to play something that's suboptimal, that's entirely fine. Nobody's going to fault you for playing what you enjoy, even if you can't do the late-game craziness because if we're being fair the late-game does get pretty cheap and not every build will be able to hack it since what counts as a one-shot largely comes down to how much EHP and reduction you have. I love my Doomfletch archer but she's so incredibly fragile that even yellow mobs have a chance of one-shotting her if I'm not careful.

That said, if you do want to play something that is not optimized for the current gameplay, and you do like playing something that can't handle the endgame, and you know that, don't complain about it. That's why the OP is getting so much flak, I think - He's playing in a very suboptimal way, refuses to admit to it, and is complaining that he can't do things like the optimized players do. He's claiming the problem is everything except his own gameplay when that is, by evidence presented, the biggest problem.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Ok, lets clarify something: As I said in the post, I did not get end game on my chars because of:

1. garbage uniques drops
2. broken economy AKA ultra-expensive prices
3. one shot kills (that dont allow you to complete the map)

And thats it.

So, Im not sure, but I spent ~ 954 - 500 = 454 hours trying to get end game and good uniques that would enhance my builds and let me complete high tier maps, on 3 chars. I tried many many things, none of them really worked. mobs just win.

If I cant do higher level maps, I cant get better drops and the uniques I need or drop exalts to buy them. This is why I want better drops in SSF an item migration retired: GGG will not aloud players to just drop these uniques and migrate the char to trade them in another league!

Just to put your reasons for not getting anywhere into perspective, people hit level 90 within the first weekend Legacy league playing SSF HC. I'm sure they didn't do that in t1 maps. Pretty sure they didn't keep getting 1 shotted either.

But it's totally the games fault you can't achieve anything right?

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Ok, lets clarify something: As I said in the post, I did not get end game on my chars because of:

1. garbage uniques drops
2. broken economy AKA ultra-expensive prices
3. one shot kills (that dont allow you to complete the map)

1. This doesn't hold you back from anything.
2. This is an overly vacuous statement. Expensive items to buy means expensive items to sell. Maybe you don't understand how to value rare items or something because you should be able to sell. You can easily get into maps (even mid to high tier) with a low budget. If you think you need a shav's, skyforth, and headhunter to make your character then you should adjust your expectations.
3. Gear/build problem unless you're just standing in the way of things you're supposed to avoid. Build your characters better, get some decent rares, and upgrade to better things or uniques that you want later. If something is telegraphed you should probably assume you do not want it to hit you.

The following post is created by a long-time self found player; me!

I understand where you're coming from. I've been there. I've played almost all Hack'n Slash game there is. I've beat them all. I've enjoyed most of them very much. I love these kind of games. But no matter how I look at it, I've never played a game as unrewarding as PoE when it comes to drops. Never. And I probably never will.

BUT - and yes, there's always a "but(t)". Your biggest problem here, is your mindset. Your attitude. Your perception of the game, or rather your perception of what the game should be. GGG balanced this game around certain ideas and tools. They provide you with hard challenges, but they also provide you with certain tools to overcome these challenges. One of these tools, is the META. Another of these tools, is trading.

The META changes with every large patch, to create something "new". Something to draw players back. To create fuzz. Revenue. Attention. These META's are often powerful, to make new content even more attractive. This isn't just an in-game mechanic, but a business model - an important model in a F2P game.

Trading is another tool. A LOT of players will try to tell you that this game isn't balanced around trading. They are wrong. Of course it is balanced around trading. Does that mean it's impossible to do things yourself? Not at all, but it will take you A LOT longer to do so.

TL:DR
You can't expect to achieve - or beat - the hardest content in a game, if you chose to not take advantage of the tools provided.

If you choose to keep playing self-found, forget about Shaper. Forget about Über Atziri. Forget about T15 maps. Believe me, your enjoyment of the game will increase. And one day, you may even get to enjoy these fights. I've reached that point as self-found in standard. But I'm not "there" when it comes to leagues.

And I'm OK with that. It's just not that kind of game.

the mistake the TE is making was repeated over and over again and nealry all of these answers are right to a certain degree.
SSF was fine since they added mastercrafting and got even better with essences.
The key to enjoy and make SSF work is very simple.
NEVER start and creat builds that REQUIRE unique items to work that you HAVENT found yet. Builds that work without unique but can be improved with one of the more common uniques are fine though (talking about stuff like the "karui ward" which can be very nice for a freezing pulser if you cant or dont want to pick up proj speed on the passiv tree).
You can count on some of the div cards as well that are farmable like #the whispering ice" from the div sec "the incantation".

Its very easy to get good rare items and a 5link is enough to make most builds powerfull enough to get safely into red tier maps and even slay the shapers guardians for some of them (uber atziri and shaper might be out of the question though)

ps: a rare with 2 resi and a high es/life roll is very commen justuse the masters to craft whatever you need on top of it ( maybe some armor/eva or a 3rd resi).
yes that master craft wont be a t1 roll but the truth is you dont need t1 rolls at all.(they are nice to have ofc^^!)

pps: you can even mastercraft a 5link for only 150 fusings with vorici and 150 fusings are nothing if you use the level 6 dayly mastertrade option (you only need elreon and vorici to be level 6 and trade alts orbs up and when you farm those you will find a few 6 sockets as well which give you even more jewel orbs which can be traded for fusings.