Why Im quiting PoE until SSF gets better drops

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Fruz a écrit :

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CrisFenix a écrit :

You see? Was not me that did this PST and placed these nodes to deal with damage this way. Its not my fault if I get one shot killed while using the char the way it was intended to be used and with 7k ES.

Of course, marauder is the best choice to defenses but he gets one shot killed on high tier maps and some unique maps.

It actually is :

- 7k ES is not high, it really isn't anymore considering the accessibility of ES gear. couple of years ago, reaching 8k ES was something not that trivial, but now .... it's different.
- Mind over Mater is very strong, but if you want to actually be able to tank with it, you need to use the jewel "spirited response" ( two of them ideally now ), or have other ways to replenish your mana very fast.
- One layer alone isn't good enough, even if you have physical mitigation, to expect some kind of tanking, you will need block ( spell and normal ), and/or evasion, and/or dodge ( spell and normal ), or some other things like arctic armour/fortify etc ....


A properly built character does not get one shot at level 82, not even close.
You could eventually talk about hard red maps if you want to bring actual, real, unavoidable/unfair one shots in, but you are not there yet, that is not an argument that you can use to justify not being able to progress past level 82, honestly.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Some people think we did not play enough but the true is that we have played more than necessary to earn good things.

"Just" playing is not enough, you need to understand the game content, to understand how to build properly a character, to know the limits of the character, to know the content and the ennemies, etc ....

Did you read the topic? I followed guides and learned all this shiet. You are saying that demigodking, mathil and others dont know the game? I did all of this, but the game does not allow you to live or get good uniques!

Is like I saying to you that you just play and dont learn the things

It's very simple.

As others have pointed out, very good players can reach the same level as you, in about 10 times less time, less than a day.
Some might be able to reach lvl 80 within 15 hours to be honest.

You likely lack knowledge, understanding about the game and how to be efficient <=> how to maximize the results from the time that you invest.

As an example, I am not try harding as I do not play the meta usually, but I do know the game quite a lot and in no way would lvl 82 be a wall to me.
So I am not suggesting that you should be try harding and take the most efficient builds to aim for endgame.

However, you likely need more knowledge about how to build your character and how to face the content.
That's what Path of Exile is, I don't think that there is much more that I can say at this point.


It's a pity that you deleted your old char, because if you need help, you can always check the "Game play help" section of the forum and will find people to help you make your charactesr better.
Anyway, if you decide to try another character, don't hesitate to ask there.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Did you read the topic? I followed guides and learned all this shiet. You are saying that demigodking, mathil and others dont know the game? I did all of this, but the game does not allow you to live or get good uniques!

The game does let me lives unless I screw up ( or I try stupidly dangerous stuff, that makes me screw up much faster ).

If the game does not allow one to get good uniques, how do other people find them ?

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Why I need to have many high level chars if I can respec them and test another build, even ascendancy points? If you talk about knowledge or experience earned, the game is giving a damn for it and just one shot kills you. Forget about your auras, curses, charges or 10-15k of EV AR or ES

I focused on 3 chars and tried very hard (scale expectations) to reach end game and none of it worked. The fourth char was an occultist, even worse results.

A waste of time. Players are just "farming machines" for currency in this game. Someone gets endgame? are they happy with their results? who cares!

So you are basically spending all of your currency on Regret Orbs, because there is no other way that you could get so many builds working on just 4 characters. That, and also you had to only play those characters for like few hours (which doesn't go well with 1000 hours spent), so that you don't actually level up. Sounds fishy, if you ask me.

If I were to guess what really happened is that you are constantly trying to force your characters into late game, while they clearly are not making it. You die a lot, lose a lot of exp, and never quite get to level up. And that over and over again. And hear me out here - I've been there. :V
You still lack a lot of knowledge and experience to reach end game, it seems.
Again, I'm not the best of players (or the most efficient - I sometimes even play inefficient builds on purpose), but I'm still waaaaay over your efficiency.

Too bad you deleted all of your characters, because if you had them, we'd be able to pin-point the mistakes you've made. That way you could improve (if you really wanted to), instead of creating thread on forums about you not being able to reach end-game.
So no, game doesn't need buff to drop rates. The problem was on your side.
If they were to buff drop rates, people like me would swim in loot, and that would make our experience terrible.
Maybe this game is just isn't for you?

"Please define efficient"

Killing mobs quickly, knowing what to pick up or not to pick up, knowing when/how to spend currency on maps and/or gear (if not playing SSF, and using trading).

"Why I need to have many high level chars if I can respec them and test another build, even ascendancy points?"

Because people who enjoy this game, and enjoy farming and getting loot, generally enjoy using the loot they find in different characters and build set ups. Yes you can re-spec ocassionally when they change the passive tree on patches. But many people are much more "efficient" than you are.. In example, not taking around 250 hours to level a character to level 80+ ... doing it in 25 to 50 hours is pretty easily doable for players acquainted with the game. 25 to 50 hours is approximately 5 times as fast, to 10 times as fast as you are claiming to take to level up your toons. Do you think you would still have such bad gear (in your opinion) if you had 5 to 10 times as many drops?

"the game is giving a damn for it and just one shot kills you."

Yes, Wraeclast is a harsh world, a harsh environment. It is very very possible to get "one-shot" (or more likely, spike damaged down very quickly, 1 to 2 seconds) As many others have stated already, you simply just need to be better at the game. With 1,000 hours of gameplay, you should have experienced many deaths, and hopefully, when you die (especially in Hardcore! But losing XP in Normal/Standard is a hefty penalty as well)... When you die, you should take note of what killed you, and how, and try to learn from it. If you got elemental reflect damaged, then you should learn to notice when mobs have elemental reflect, and then seek a way to *NOT* die to it. Really CrisFenix.. it is as simple as that. Get better at the game.. if you are 1,000 hours in, and getting one-shot all the time, and you can't figure out why, then I don't know, but if you aren't having fun anymore, then that is totally OK, maybe the game is just not for you anymore. Getting an amazing unique or two isn't going to make you just *magically* unable to be one-shot anymore. That largely comes down to player skill/knowledge.

"A waste of time. Players are just "farming machines" for currency in this game."

Yup, you nailed it. This game, as is ANY and EVERY other video game, TV show, movie, book, etc... are a "waste of time" in some sense! Lol... If you are not having fun any more, then it is totally OK to chalk it up "waste of time" and not fun anymore. But yeah, you nailed it man. People play this game with the EXACT intention of being a "farming machine"... farming loot, farming currency, farming experience and levels. That is THE point of the game. If you don't think it is fun, I suggest you don't keep playing. Or if you want to keep playing, I suggest doing everything you can to be more "efficient" .. If you can double or triple your productivity when you are in game, that would be awesome for you! You would have a much beter chance at getting that loot you want :)

BTW for anyone reading, I don't know for sure, but it seems like English is not CrisFenix first language.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Well, search poe.trade for a body armour with minimum 700 ES and 5L in Legacy. You will see many Vaal Regalia priced on 1 exalt but last week was 2 exalts. One with 6L was 6 exalts, but now costs 7 or 8.

The shavrone 5L was 8 exalts and the 6L was 18 exalts.

Then buy a destroyer regalia instead?

It's not like you need a 700 ES Vaal Regalia at lvl 80.

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Kaw a écrit :

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CrisFenix a écrit :

The golden rule for playing SSF is: 'Don't plan a build that requires something special.'

This is basically it. There are so many uniques, especially in legacy league. So to go SSF with a build that requires specific uniques in order to work, is setting yourself up for frustration.

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Peterlerock a écrit :

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Well, search poe.trade for a body armour with minimum 700 ES and 5L in Legacy. You will see many Vaal Regalia priced on 1 exalt but last week was 2 exalts. One with 6L was 6 exalts, but now costs 7 or 8.

The shavrone 5L was 8 exalts and the 6L was 18 exalts.

Then buy a destroyer regalia instead?

It's not like you need a 700 ES Vaal Regalia at lvl 80.

Or make one, lol. 5L Regalia isn't even that expensive, making one is really case of hitting flat with alts.

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Perq a écrit :

- waiting for months (sometimes) to drop one exalted orb. and this exalted will not solve your problems because you cant buy even a rare 5L body chest with it!
Yet I drop (NOT BUY) few exalts every league. And I don't wait few months to drop one.

Answer: Everyone got one or two exalts when they play in a new league, not big thing. Waiting for months to drop ANOTHER exalts in standard is the problem here.

Something tells me you are quite inefficient in farming, sir.

Answer: in farming? I get like 80 jewellers, 90 croms and 10-14 chaos doing recipes in 4 hours, if I need. I clear fast, check all boxes and stack rarity on my gear. I even use some gems that give you quantity and quality on some maps. you do that too?

For the record, I have two characters on Legacy, level 88 and 82 (around ~100 hours of gameplay, maybe more, can't check now :V):

Answer: 100 hours is kinda slow Mr. I took like 30-40 hours to level each char I had, so, these two chars you have I could level them in around 80 hours. Its because each time I arrive Dried Lake I level up 8-10 levels just there. The Docks, 3 or 4 levels there.;)

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After one year and half playing this game I have created 4 chars and level them up to 72-82 each. I have put in this game more than 954 hours of my life

Sorry to break this to you, but you are simply snail level of slow. Leveling up a character to level 80 takes me around a week of progressing SLOWLY. There are people who can get to 80 in one day.

Answer: As I said above, I level up a char faster than you, but I dont like and dont need to level even faster. I dont like racing this game, not worth.

The second character on this league got to level 82 in around ~20 hours.
If you have taken around 1000 hours of gameplay to level up 4 character to level 80, I don't know what you are expecting. Amount of drops you get is somewhat bound to amount of exp you are getting...

Answer: For god's sake! If I where that slow I would just quit the game! LOL

I will explain this:

I spent too much time trying to get end game in my chars, testing builds and doing end game areas, not leveling them!

I did not needed to create many chars because I farmed too much currency and did respec passives and ascendancy to test other builds. even some bandits where repec on my raider. I got many currency farming.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Like all average players, I got skilled, learned many things, followed guides, did so much research, theory craft using planner or path of building, used vendor recipes (chaos orbs too), saw many streams on twitch, etc..

Problem is: after a long time playing you dont evolve in this game. You get on the same point you was on the beggining:

And ending this, I think this is your problem. You think you already know enough. I learn stuff after 4k hours in this game. And you sure as fuck will have to learn more stuff, too. Let me assure you once more - it is not problem of drops being too low... :@

Answer: Well, you tought I did not knew the game when you did this reply. Now you know Im not a begginer on this, but, Im not a pro either. Thing is: I am just tired of too much farming and too few rewards. You need to think like this: players that are infinitely better than I (like zenocide genius) gave up this game for much less.

"I took like 30-40 hours to level each char I had"


"After one year and half playing this game I have created 4 chars and level them up to 72-82 each. I have put in this game more than 954 hours of my life,"


Make up your mind, because something seems very wrong here, honestly.
Good players experience most of the game without chain ripping, and that makes their character higher level than 82.
And if you have never gone past lvl 82, no way that you have acually experienced and therefore know the exp curve at level 88 ( since you were answering a message where he was mentioning level 88 ).


Zeno gave up for "much less" ??? what ?
No .... really not, he left for other reasons, not because he was not able to progress past level 82, or unable to get basic gear for comfortable mapping.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

For the record, I have two characters on Legacy, level 88 and 82 (around ~100 hours of gameplay, maybe more, can't check now :V):

Answer: 100 hours is kinda slow Mr. I took like 30-40 hours to level each char I had, so, these two chars you have I could level them in around 80 hours. Its because each time I arrive Dried Lake I level up 8-10 levels just there. The Docks, 3 or 4 levels there.;)

First off, 100 for both. Not one. Lol. You said you spent 1000 fucking hours on 4 characters, now you back pedal to being faster than me? xD Something tells me you are simply lying.

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Sorry to break this to you, but you are simply snail level of slow. Leveling up a character to level 80 takes me around a week of progressing SLOWLY. There are people who can get to 80 in one day.

Answer: As I said above, I level up a char faster than you, but I dont like and dont need to level even faster. I dont like racing this game, not worth.

No, you don't. You can't go past level 82, you can't possibly level up faster than me.

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The second character on this league got to level 82 in around ~20 hours.
If you have taken around 1000 hours of gameplay to level up 4 character to level 80, I don't know what you are expecting. Amount of drops you get is somewhat bound to amount of exp you are getting...

Answer: For god's sake! If I where that slow I would just quit the game! LOL

It took you over 1000 hours to reach level ONLY 82. I guess the quit part is warranted.

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CrisFenix a écrit :

Like all average players, I got skilled, learned many things, followed guides, did so much research, theory craft using planner or path of building, used vendor recipes (chaos orbs too), saw many streams on twitch, etc..

Problem is: after a long time playing you dont evolve in this game. You get on the same point you was on the beggining:

And ending this, I think this is your problem. You think you already know enough. I learn stuff after 4k hours in this game. And you sure as fuck will have to learn more stuff, too. Let me assure you once more - it is not problem of drops being too low... :@

Answer: Well, you tought I did not knew the game when you did this reply. Now you know Im not a begginer on this, but, Im not a pro either. Thing is: I am just tired of too much farming and too few rewards. You need to think like this: players that are infinitely better than I (like zenocide genius) gave up this game for much less.

You ARE still a new player, but you stubbornly are trying to act like you are not. I mean, go ahead, contradict yourself and act like you know what you are doing.
In the end, we don't care - it is your time, and your fun. Just quit the game and have fun elsewhere. :P
We find the current state fair (and honestly, there are too many uniques dropping atm... NOT TOO FEW!), and no one who has experience in the game will tell you otherwise.

Ps. Learn to quote, this less was harder to manage than it should be... :V