Permanent Loot Allocation ... for .. why?

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iamstryker a écrit :

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nynyny a écrit :

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iamstryker a écrit :

Edit: Making 5L's and 6L's slightly easier to craft and buffing map drops a little REALLY destroyed the game. Its so different, I can't believe they would throw their "ideals" out the window like that.

/sarcasm

Nowhere did I say that it destroyed the game, I am simply saying that theres a pattern.

Either those changes are a problem in your opinion or they aren't. If they aren't then theres no reason at all to bring them up in this discussion.

You wife has the habbit to spend an hour in the bathroom every morning. Is that a problem for you? Sure. Does it destroy your marriage? Most likely not.

So if the devs make minor changes to some of the most irritating parts of the game thats evidence that they are going to all of the sudden throw in an auction house?

I think your reading into it too much. Your disagreement over loot options is making you paranoid.

When i play short allocation, every one in the party stop attacking and rush to the loot.
Is it faster to clear?
Defense this and dont to nonsense like developer abandoned their idea.

oh i just realize your QQING skill gem already 20/20, nvm then

P.S there is a thread to discuss loot system, why would you create this thread if not QQing?

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iamstryker a écrit :

So if the devs make minor changes to some of the most irritating parts of the game thats evidence that they are going to all of the sudden throw in an auction house?

I think your reading into it too much. Your disagreement over loot options is making you paranoid.

Lets recap.

Their original attitude towards loot was that its supposed to be competitive, they dont want you to only have to deal with mobs but also players
Did they change that on behalf of the community? [√]

Their original attitude towards 5L/6L items was that they wanted them to be rare, valuable and hard to get.
Did they make it easier to obtain them by adjusting drop rates and increasing the chance to craft them? [√]

Their original attitude towards maps was that they should be complementary and special, which is something I disagree with but thats not the point.
Did they make it easier for players to obtain a lot of maps while also not even having to rely on them since the highest out-of-map zone is 68 now? [√]

Youre either incredibly naive or extremely delusional, but those 3000 posts definitely didnt make you any smarter. Its not too farfetched to assume that the next thing they will "improve" is the trading system people have been complaining about for quite a while. And how could you possibly improve the trade in a game with a tradechat and a tradeforum? In the eyes of most players by adding an auction house. Kinda funny since something similiar already exists.

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nynyny a écrit :

And how could you possibly improve the trade in a game with a tradechat and a tradeforum?

For starters they could implement the trading offline through the forums like they mentioned during closed beta. I'm sure theres more they can do other than a full blown D3 AH.

BTW, 5L and 6L's are still rare, valuable and hard to get. They haven't back tracked on anything in that regard. Are you going to jump all over them for making ANY kind of change that is the tiniest bit easier? Is there such a thing as something being overly difficult in your eyes or not?

Its very far fetched to think that they are going to throw in an AH right now.

QQing over their supposed "ideals" is just an excuse to complain about changes that you yourself don't agree with.

Also, in those 3k posts of mine a mod has never had to edit any of my posts because of insults. I'm not that surprised that is not true of yours in only 300 posts.

it probably was a hard decision for the devs to add options to the loot system. because of the reasons you mentioned, it really takes off the competition aspect.

and i don't think they changed their mind because people like iamstryker just complained over and over again (he definitely contributed the most of all players to the loot discussion). and it's not that the devs suddently changed their mind that options are a good thing because they know people always take one they get the most out of it.

imho it was because there are alot of people who didn't party because they have a bad internet connection or slow reaction time.
if i played on the american server with 500ms ping i had definitely less loot than playing on the european server with 25ms. because i have a really bad reaction time:)
enlarging the timer would have helped that but the current short alloc timer worked for most of the people on their nearest servers (except for aoteraroa and australia).

giving these people a chance in parties was definitely a good thing to do.

the only solution really is to avoid perm alloc parties for the reasons you mentioned: people waiting until everybody left or died to get more loot, people not fighting the boss et cetera...

edit: my english really is bad...

Their original attitude towards unique items was that these items should never existed in this game
Did they change that on behalf of the community? [√]

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iamstryker a écrit :

Also, in those 3k posts of mine a mod has never had to edit any of my posts because of insults. I'm not that surprised that is not true of yours in only 300 posts.

Care to quote the post of mine that got edited? I just remember myself editing one on request of a mod eventhough he agreed with my point, which is pretty ridiculous.

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iamstryker a écrit :

BTW, 5L and 6L's are still rare, valuable and hard to get. They haven't back tracked on anything in that regard. Are you going to jump all over them for making ANY kind of change that is the tiniest bit easier? Is there such a thing as something being overly difficult in your eyes or not?

Check the trade chat once in a while, will you? 5L are far from rare, the amount of 6L increased drastically since they implemented 0.11

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iamstryker a écrit :

Its very far fetched to think that they are going to throw in an AH right now.

Youre right, after ignoring a lot of things they said in the past its really farfetched to give into the communitys demand once again.

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iamstryker a écrit :

QQing over their supposed "ideals" is just an excuse to complain about changes that you yourself don't agree with.

They stated that its their ideals, the way they think the game should be. I dont need an excuse for disagreeing with what they are currently doing because I am not someone who defends everything developers do just for the sake of it.

Two possibilities exist. They either changed their oppinion because of the weather/had a sudden change of heart or because a big part of the community kept complaining. Doesnt need a genius to figure out whats more likely.

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nynyny a écrit :

Check the trade chat once in a while, will you? 5L are far from rare, the amount of 6L increased drastically since they implemented 0.11

Trade chat doesn't really indicate much since you see a lot of people linking the rarest uniques all day long. That doesn't mean that your going to find one or get a 6L in less than 3k fusings.

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nynyny a écrit :

I dont need an excuse for disagreeing with what they are currently doing because I am not someone who defends everything developers do just for the sake of it.

If you disagree with it then simply give your reasons for why you don't like looting options and want FFA only instead of just complaining that the devs have abandoned their ideals.

Those questions have been answered a dozen times already. Honestly I am not surprised you have that amount of posts, its like talking to a wall. You apparently are some sort of ambitious troll who wants people to repeat themselves over and over again.

At least thats what it looks like to me.