Permanent Loot Allocation ... for .. why?

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Lifendeath a écrit :

You won't get acquiesce you're looking OP most games these days are made up of majority pixel babies even a lot die hard players are the same way everyone feels entitled to loot.

Entitled to loot you say? By playing a loot based game? The nerve!

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Lifendeath a écrit :

game that isn't about handing items out it's become the normality and it's expected that people don't have to do anything for items.

Wait a second. We don't have to do anything for items now? So I can just afk and stuff magically appears in my inventory? Oh your insinuating that slaying the monsters and picking up drops is a hand out? I guess all those people playing single player are a bunch of free loading moochers then eh?

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Lifendeath a écrit :

after the patch everyone i play w/ was of the same idea permanent loot is a piece of shit can't pick scrolls can't pick up high level valuable whites it's fucking stupid half the fun playing this game is beating someone to that 6 socket or that crappy unique grinding for me know has become tedious because i don't have to work.

Maybe you didn't get the memo but if you don't like it then you don't have to play it. You can select FFA and actually play with other people who like to play FFA. I know! Isn't it great!.

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Lifendeath a écrit :

It's always amusing how wankers like you attack people simply for going against the grain you're just another pixel baby take that multi coloured pixel stick out of your arse and see that not every game has to be a loot-o-matic.

Your posts are very amusing. So much QQ from one player.

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iamstryker a écrit :

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Lifendeath a écrit :

You won't get acquiesce you're looking OP most games these days are made up of majority pixel babies even a lot die hard players are the same way everyone feels entitled to loot.

Entitled to loot you say? By playing a loot based game? The nerve!

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Lifendeath a écrit :

game that isn't about handing items out it's become the normality and it's expected that people don't have to do anything for items.

Wait a second. We don't have to do anything for items now? So I can just afk and stuff magically appears in my inventory? Oh your insinuating that slaying the monsters and picking up drops is a hand out? I guess all those people playing single player are a bunch of free loading moochers then eh?

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Lifendeath a écrit :

after the patch everyone i play w/ was of the same idea permanent loot is a piece of shit can't pick scrolls can't pick up high level valuable whites it's fucking stupid half the fun playing this game is beating someone to that 6 socket or that crappy unique grinding for me know has become tedious because i don't have to work.

Maybe you didn't get the memo but if you don't like it then you don't have to play it. You can select FFA and actually play with other people who like to play FFA. I know! Isn't it great!.

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Lifendeath a écrit :

It's always amusing how wankers like you attack people simply for going against the grain you're just another pixel baby take that multi coloured pixel stick out of your arse and see that not every game has to be a loot-o-matic.

Your posts are very amusing. So much QQ from one player.

It's amusing that wankers like you can't take criticism about anything, but please give another very rousing reply i'll be waiting.

What criticism? All you did was cry and mudsling.

BWAAAAAAAAAH I LIEK PLAYING DA GAMEZ ONE WAY SO IT IS DA BEST WAY SO EVERY1 NEED TO PLAY IT LIKE ME OR YOU SUXXXXXXXX

BWAAAAAAAAAH

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nynyny a écrit :

Ninja? Short Allocation gives you the chance to pick up your item UNCONTESTED. If you dont do it in a set amount of time you didnt deserve it, simple as that. You dont even get what ninjaing means.

The problem is, you have people that build completely defensive builds and will just 'hover' around in mobs and wait for ranged to kill, but won't actively do any killing themselves. So while the ranged people are in the process of killing enough of the mob for it to be safe for them to rush in and grab their loot, there are remaining monsters that continue to pose a threat. Said defensive player, or what we call a 'tank', will simply sit there and take their loot because they know that they'll be killed if they get too close to the mob themselves. Permanent allocation is great, because it allows us 'glass cannons' to get our fair share of loot.


Edit to mention: I guess it's fair if a person's internet lags and someone else grabs their loot?...Fair seems like a rather subjective term, doesn't it?

If you like permanent allocation, play with permanent allocation. If you don't, don't. What is the big damn deal?

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Vinifera7 a écrit :

If you like permanent allocation, play with permanent allocation. If you don't, don't. What is the big damn deal?

My 2 cents: I find that the groups that do perma allocation (which is >50% these days) have members that are completely worthless, due to the "guaranteed" loot. Afkers, non-dpsers, chest-poppers, hang-so-far-behind-they-almost-aren't-even-in-range-to-be-on-loot-list'ers, etc.

While this shouldn't be a problem, "go make your own group or join one that doesn't have them", they simply don't fill up anymore like perm groups do, as the other portion of players, those that aren't worthless; tend to still be impatient and want to hop into *any* group that will fill up more quickly (and therefore maximize loot+xp potential).

What neither group seems to realize is that its boring, incredibly boring, without that loot tension. And they will both be joining the "uh well I like the game but I just kinda got bored and stopped playing" group.


Just my opinion.

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sdrakkon a écrit :

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Xihxo a écrit :

Some players like to fight before looting but with short allocation or free-for-all loot allocation range players get shafted.

exactly this
i kill bad guys that are on my screen
i collect my loot
rinse and repeat

its just the way i play. naturally, i adapted to poe partyplay but i am still more comfortable with perma allocation.

indeed .. therefore OP reasoning is invalid... great for totemist and summoners.. as they got loot visible all the time and pick up just by targeting.. for melee its not the option .. another reason why the OP reasoning is invalid...

Probably crazy cause he cant loot cause other people are busy fighting as they are dependant on life leech etc.

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exit_zero a écrit :

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Mammatus a écrit :

Get the feeling the op is only interested in profiting from others 'incompetence'.

Option A: a game system that gives higher rewards to players playing the game competently and taking more risks.

Option B: a game system that hands out rewards completely randomly.

Which of these systems will encourage better gameplay? Which of these systems will discourage people from paying attention? Which of these systems will make competent players unhappier? Which of these systems will make incompetent players happier?

Option B will encourage better gameplay, if option B is permanent allocation. You don't get better gameplay just by adding in another element to the gameplay, no matter how much skill that element takes. With permanent allocation you can focus more on the actual game and thus you get better gameplay!

It's just not true that without FFA loot better gameplay is not encouraged or that people will be discouraged from paying attention. Looting is NOT the game. It never was and never will be.

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My 2 cents: I find that the groups that do perma allocation (which is >50% these days) have members that are completely worthless, due to the "guaranteed" loot. Afkers, non-dpsers, chest-poppers, hang-so-far-behind-they-almost-aren't-even-in-range-to-be-on-loot-list'ers, etc.


Just my opinion.

This is not an issue caused by perm allocation.
There were allways these kind of players in this game.

Solution is quit simple, play with friends.


@OP

There is an option in the game to "CREATE PUBLIC GAMES" and an other option "SHORT ALLOCATION".

How about using them and play with your "not a ninja, but ninja like" random ppl?

I could use all your "statements" against you but i think its not necessary.