Auction house

Tencent knows they would lose a ton of cred firing the guy who made their golden goose over an issue as trivial as this. If you want to know the story behind the break up of Blizzard North... they had similar issues with Activision's acquisition. They were told to make D3 a subscription game, like WoW. They said they wouldn't... and walked off the project rather than let them be told how they should market it. Years later we get the game that's out now... it's still out isn't it?

Even skipping the first 10 listings and setting a minimum buy price of 5 chaos it will still take me upwards of 20 minutes to find a decent 400+ armor chest with life after whispering pople with not OMG amazing items, just "good enough" items. As is I upgrade a character's gear once, at the end of act 10, and never upgrade it again. And until this league, it's been good enough to play one character up through t16's and shaper. Easier trade doesn't HAVE to mean reduced droprates. That's a logical fallacy and will keep players AWAY from the game.

Second, if this game didn't spit 80 million useless items at you, and the crafting wasn't locked behind absolutely absurd layers of RNG, most people wouldn't even trade. The reason those of us who DO trade want it easier is because this game is horrendously bad at it's core premise, of kill monsters, get cool loot. There's not even suitable ways to farm targetted necessary items,and no, div cards don't count as the only ones that lead to useful items have a less than a tenth of a percent to drop.

Finally, GGCent contradict themselves in their own manifesto repeatedly. You want items to mean something? Make them useful. You want players to grind items? Give them a chance and not make it so RNG dependant. Optimize your code so that if I'm running maps I don't get mysteriously disconnected and all my portals and loot is gone. Fix it or fail, but at east do SOMETHING for christ's sake.

we need one but they never listen

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SilentStorm625 a écrit :

we need one but they never listen

No we do not. No ARPG ever needs one as D3 clearly proved.

If you don't like to trade play SSF. Plenty people do and achieve just as much as trade league players BUT slower.

If you want to trade, trade smart: list only decent items and buy upgrades when YOU really need them to push a new treshold in your build. This way you don't have to stress to much and get overwhelmed.

If you want to trade maps use poemap/live. It's amazing and you get any maps you need in seconds.

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Icoblablubb a écrit :

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Biovital a écrit :

Never gonna happen. Something about the community experience, something about ruining the already complete cancer economy and something about making the game easy.

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Icoblablubb a écrit :

don't you like that u have to use 3rd party programms for literally anything in PoE? i wonder how popular PoE would be if we didn't had all these PoB poetrade poeninja etc etc

You don't have to use poe.trade, there is actually an official trade site at https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Betrayal

ya if u wan't more clunky version fewer search criterias ya use the official one .. they even failed at copy/paste poetrade.. but whatever the point still stands never seen a game where the community has to create so many 3rd party tools to clear things up and allow u to even understand abilitys

It actually has more search options, lets you copy items without a browser extension, lets you copy mods from an item to search by them, search for affix count etc. And the UX is much nicer overall.

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LowBudget780 a écrit :

I am a 1000+ hour Poe expert, could work for the balance team if I applied since I meet the requirements. What credentials do you have besides being a newb?

Never said I was an expert, being an expert has nothing to do with the fact you are complaining. Fact of the matter is, we dont need an auction house. If you dont like the game anymore, find a new one. At this point you are just spewing things for the sake of argument.

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Bone2flesh a écrit :

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SilentStorm625 a écrit :

we need one but they never listen

No we do not. No ARPG ever needs one as D3 clearly proved.

Let's be real here, D3 was broken for a myriad of reasons and an auction house was the least of it. There was no character customization, no itemization, and no end game. The AH was pushed through their belief that they needed to design drops around it, and the fact that the gear required to do inferno difficulty dropped only in inferno difficulty.

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If you don't like to trade play SSF. Plenty people do and achieve just as much as trade league players BUT slower.

Which basically translates to trade is the best thing to do in this game, and they made it intentionally bad. Which makes it clearly obvious why people complain. If you make a system in you game and encourage players to do it, they will, and then if it's not fun they will tell you that. It's that simple, don't put things in a game if you don't mean for them to be fun.

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If you want to trade, trade smart: list only decent items and buy upgrades when YOU really need them to push a new treshold in your build. This way you don't have to stress to much and get overwhelmed.

Again this is an entire problem with trade in this game, it shouldn't be overwhelming, that just means it's bad. It's bad and takes time away from actually playing the game. They designed the game to have you be trading constantly again and again for every upgrade all the time, and their trade system can't realistically support they way they designed it.

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If you want to trade maps use poemap/live. It's amazing and you get any maps you need in seconds.

Of course here we see the common solution to trade, take it out of GGG's hands and do it ourselves. It's how we got to as "good" of a trading system as we have today. Imagine if GGG really got their way and had trade chat and the forum be how trading worked.

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j33bus a écrit :

Again this is an entire problem with trade in this game, it shouldn't be overwhelming, that just means it's bad. It's bad and takes time away from actually playing the game. They designed the game to have you be trading constantly again and again for every upgrade all the time, and their trade system can't realistically support they way they designed it.

"They designed the game to have you be trading constantly again and again for every upgrade all the time"

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Just because YOU feel that this is the ONLY way to play the game does not make it true. [Removed by Support]

I started this league on my Slayer as a 2H RT axe cleave. I have found shit along the way and evolved my character accordingly respecing along the way, moving points according to the gear I find and needs while amassing currency and playing the actual game - NOT TRADING.

I am now running dual sword crit cyclone.

I bought 3 major items: Atziri's Acuity, 6L Bronn's, Starkonja.

I have crafted most of the rest myself and still working on crafting new foils after I multimod:


The only trading I do is lising items I find and buying once in a blue moon ONLY build defining pieces.|

The trading system is not perfect especially if you build your WHOLE gaming experince arounbd it. But it's more than fine and enough to play the game at it's fullest and it's clearly proven you DO NOT NEED TO TRADE 1 ITEM to full clear the game.

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Bone2flesh a écrit :

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j33bus a écrit :

Again this is an entire problem with trade in this game, it shouldn't be overwhelming, that just means it's bad. It's bad and takes time away from actually playing the game. They designed the game to have you be trading constantly again and again for every upgrade all the time, and their trade system can't realistically support they way they designed it.

"They designed the game to have you be trading constantly again and again for every upgrade all the time"

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Just because YOU feel that this is the ONLY way to play the game does not make it true. [Removed by Support]

I started this league on my Slayer as a 2H RT axe cleave. I have found shit along the way and evolved my character accordingly respecing along the way, moving points according to the gear I find and needs while amassing currency and playing the actual game - NOT TRADING.

I am now running dual sword crit cyclone.

I bought 3 major items: Atziri's Acuity, 6L Bronn's, Starkonja.

I have crafted most of the rest myself and still working on crafting new foils after I multimod:

The only trading I do is listing items I find and buying once in a blue moon ONLY build defining pieces.|

The trading system is not perfect especially if you build your WHOLE gaming experince around it. But it's more than fine and enough to play the game at it's fullest and it's clearly proven you DO NOT NEED TO TRADE 1 ITEM to full clear the game.

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Build defining. If you have to trade for build defining or enabling pieces, you have to trade. That's a massive point the anti-easier ( not even full on easy trade) people gloss over. How many builds have build defining or flat out the build can't be played without them uniques? Far too many.