Auction house

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Maybe they should make a whole separate game that allowed trading of items you found in PoE.

They like MtG at GGG. It's a card game, for people living under a rock. You will often trade with people to get cards that you want so you can play the game the way you want to, much like PoE you trade for items.

NO one in their right mind would ask a person playing a game of MtG if they would trade stuff while they were playing. You trade after the game is over.

Just for the record...The trading in Magic Online is completely automated. It is done entirely via bots and the seller does not have to be online for sales to happen. It is an absolute pleasure to use.

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GhostlightX a écrit :

You have the SSF option. You will not be affected by the presence of an automated trade system. And again the scaremongering that adding automated trading means you need to lower drop rates? I thought we over all that nonsense.

Remember that a trading system already exists. We use it every day. It just so happens to be a pain to use. No one is asking for anything that isn't in the game already. Just asking for it to be stream-lined in its operation, so it is faster and safer. Scamming and price-fixing would end. I guess that upsets some people.

This has to make #1 as the most naive post in here.

First: I don't want to play SSF. I like to trade to a certain degree. I see trade as a valuable tool. That does not mean I want trade to be the "be all, end all", which it arguable will be with an automated system.

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I thought we over all that nonsense.

Second: ALL loot based games with trading, has a balance between drops and trading. PoE is - now - balanced around trading. Drops ARE based on the amounts of trades being done, and how easy it is to acquire gear. Easier/faster/more accessible trade, means adjusted drop rates. "Over all that"? As long as the developers says so, we will never be "over that".

Third: One league will NEVER have better drop rates than another league. No matter what happens with drop rates in trade league, it will also happen in SSF.

Fourth: If you think scams/price fixing and that nonsense will be better with an automated system where bots - in a larger degree than now - will snipe everything, you're mistaken.

Trade should remain a tool, not the "be all, end all". Trade IS the most powerful tool there is, why should it be effortless? Yes, trade will be easier with an automated system, no one can argue different. But the game? As a whole? It will be worse.

Do you actually think that an automated system won't change the in-game progression/balance/loot tables? EVERY single update WILL be made with an automated system in mind. Every. Single. Decision. Every item with be balanced around "everyone can get this at a click of a button". It's inevitable.

We currently have a VERY nice balance between SSF and trade, and the golden middle ground.

My MTG days are well past me... quit during Ice Age. Never even considered playing it online. I can't abide cheating in a game in any form. A game has to support solo play or it wont even show up on my radar. Not exactly true... I'll play online poker, but they spend incredible resources to avoid cheating.

Meh, just automate the trade as it already is. It's what the automated eula-violating 'people' do in their hordes.

So when a trade whisper is sent the system parses it, sends a limited-access invite (can't use local portals, ect), fishes out the item desired, and waits for the appropriate currency.
Once the appropriate currency appears it completes the trade, GG, T4T, whatever. Currency is dumped into a designated tab.
If no currency appears within 60 seconds the system cancels the trade, disbands the trade group, and returns the item to stash to wait for another whisper. The API does not record an item as being sold until it is removed from that player's database (so the system retains the price info even if the item has been temporarily removed from stash).

PLAYER never sees any of this, only a report that X item sold for X currency.


Set up a more complex AI to watch trades, looking for 'bot' activity and fixers, and begins penalizing bots with ever longer delays before it 'reacts' to a purchase whisper. Locating and correcting 'fixers' would be more complicated, but modern AI should be able to figure them out, too, and make corrections.

Standard league makes no fun for me, buying items is a pain in the butt, a auction house is needed. So me plays ssf, but when playing ssf you do not get enough good item drops to be able to play the end game content.

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Grummelbums a écrit :

Standard league makes no fun for me, buying items is a pain in the butt, a auction house is needed. So me plays ssf, but when playing ssf you do not get enough good item drops to be able to play the end game content.

holy necro bump

Its 2022 and poe players still have to trade via website.

Just reading this sentence makes me laugh out loud.

AUCTIONHOUSE needs to come!

To all you beta testers, welcome to 2022, its time for a change :)

Trying to buy stuff takes ages. Its not nice whispering the whole marktet and get no response.....