can we please stop the power creep, already? (or better - reverse it)

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Sogolon a écrit :

But now 100 mill DPS builds are possible.

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robmafia a écrit :

to put it into perspective:



6 copies of that were made.

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

In town = 62k on Double Strike
Hiddeout with auras on and Ice Golem = 118k on Double Strike
With all buffs on(i mean Power/Frenzy Charges) less then 150k

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

[Spoiler]Problem is there is people that are responsible for balancing stuff.
Let me explain you, what is happening in this forum.
Someone is crying for nerf. GGG decide to nerf things, 90% of the player base that use that characters start to cry, why their character was nerf, and want buff, and nerf to other character, there is player that have enough and just quit the game.
Next situation is, someone seen someone very powerful build, he does not think how much is involved, at what cost, neither see passive, he simply doesn`t care, he just think for himself and want his character class buffed, the ones that see and think it`s very powerful want to be nerfed and we go again.
Next one is crying, the game is too hard, not rewarding, have to grind all day for good drop, his character is not doing enough DMG, he need better items, but he needs currency and so on, and it`s goes forever.
Next one someone is crying some mechanics to be nerfed or pushed.
Then half the playerbase, come here and compain why this item or this character has been nerfed and they can`t play this build anymore.
People get mad, start quitting and only GGG lose, because of spoiling forum trolls, that only work they have is to cry for something.
Balancing is complicated thing. Also if they balance this or this item, or this and this passive, or this and this mechanics, more then 1 character/class will suffer.
Okay right now Dual Wield is a strong ones, if you play meta. But there is so much diversity and a lot of people not playing meta, they play build they like, they made and so on. Not everone are 24 hours in the forum or in the youtube watching streamers and doing mirror build, that work.
So if they nerf this "imba" build, people that doesn`t have much currency and not play the meta will suffer and their build will be too weak.
For example i don`t play meta builds, i look for time to time in some builds to get some idea, but i want to make my build special.
Every time i`m struggling, everytime my build require very good items, to working, it takes me a lot of time, and still not doing half million damage, but i`m not crying in the forum for buffs.
Quick example my last Gladiator, great character i love it, it`s one hand + shield. My damage is kinda low, and items are good. It`s not very powerfull character, unless you involve heavy into.
One hand and shield is always expensive build, if you want to build all arround character, high block, strong defence, and decent dmg for clear speed.
For example if i switch for Dual Wield i will triple my damage.
But i like the look of one hand + shield and that is i wanna play.
And so far i never done Elder or Shaper. I`m pretty sure most player in the game not have them killed.
If you are a new player, you have to gear yourself, doing trades, that takes time, buying items, that is expensive. Took you a lot of time, and it`s hard to get to the point you constantly doing t16, get all the fragments and to do the END Game boses.
I would even say in most games, you do this End Game boses, a lot easier and faster. The game is still hard, but some people are playing for too much time, have too much currency and good items and not have problem with that.
This is one problem that need solution. DEVS need to find a way to make the game challenging and interesting for such player. The focus should be equal on new and on experience players.

Because all of the upper point i make i do think DEV should absolutely never listen and never take even for consideration a suggestion for balacing the game for players. That should be 1000% on their balancing team, and players should not have word on that.
Because at the end, 99,99% of the guy typing and making new threads crying for balance, they just want better thing for themself, not for the game sake, but for themself. For that reason, player should not be listen for balancing the game.
I`m talking about for balacing.

Our suggestion and feedback should be listen, when it`s for better experience, like trade system, crafting, linking, masters and so on, but not on balancing stuffs.

One last thing, this is my gear, it`s not the most expensive ones, but i would say it`s decent and a lot of exalted spend in it:

The only weak link is the sword, but good sword are atleast 50+ exalted.
I also run Watcher`s eye with Hatred crit, RedNightmare Jewel, both very expensive jewel. And in the end with heavy investment, this is my DPS:
In town = 62k on Double Strike
Hiddeout with auras on and Ice Golem = 118k on Double Strike
With all buffs on(i mean Power/Frenzy Charges) less then 150k
Armour is 11k, physical reduction, without charges are 49%.
Block in town with all block passive taken and heavy investment into that area is 67% in town.

See the big difference? Solid build on paper, but in reality nothing special. They decide to nerf thing, that is involved in Dual Wield for example i will suffer big time, while Dual Wield still will have solid damage.
If i decide to switch to Dual Wield, my damage with this gear will probably be tripled, but the defence will go even more down and i will die often.
But it`s all about choices, so balancing is a complicated thing and all factor are taken for consideration, not just this and this.
So the only ones who should have word on balancing have to be DEVS. [/spoiler]

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

(wall of text, including gear for some reason i didn't bother figuring out)

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robmafia a écrit :

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

(wall of text, including gear for some reason i didn't bother figuring out)

what in the hell are you talking about?

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

Incoherent wall of text that nobody read