Its time for fortify+movement skill to die

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__Z__ a écrit :

Make fortify only active when there's at least one enemy at close range ?
That will solve all problem isn't it ?
something like grayed out or vanishing when not close will suffice. caster and bower must rely on things like worm flask or something in order to keep it up...

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Dharall a écrit :

But I rather GGG took a serious look at movement skills in general then fiddle with changes like this.

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Orbaal a écrit :

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Dharall a écrit :

But I rather GGG took a serious look at movement skills in general then fiddle with changes like this.

This is an older video - about 1 year old - where Chris is commenting on the moveskill situation.
https://youtu.be/zZqRMDz2WRA

tl;dr:
GGG is aware of moveskills being broken, but wont fix it because it might upset too many players.
(This interview is not on the moveskill + fortify topic, but a good enough indicator I think)

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Orbaal a écrit :

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Dharall a écrit :

But I rather GGG took a serious look at movement skills in general then fiddle with changes like this.

This is an older video - about 1 year old - where Chris is commenting on the moveskill situation.
https://youtu.be/zZqRMDz2WRA

tl;dr:
GGG is aware of moveskills being broken, but wont fix it because it might upset too many players.
(This interview is not on the moveskill + fortify topic, but a good enough indicator I think)

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goetzjam a écrit :

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Orbaal a écrit :

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Dharall a écrit :

But I rather GGG took a serious look at movement skills in general then fiddle with changes like this.

This is an older video - about 1 year old - where Chris is commenting on the moveskill situation.
https://youtu.be/zZqRMDz2WRA

tl;dr:
GGG is aware of moveskills being broken, but wont fix it because it might upset too many players.
(This interview is not on the moveskill + fortify topic, but a good enough indicator I think)

Like you mentioned that was over a year ago, yet they've done nothing, not even a 10% nerf to how fast melee movement abilities are since making that statement.

You know what would still enable people to zoom across the map, removal of fortify from melee mobility skills. As a result they get to apply a nerf they probably want to do anyway, while at the same time not rewarding players for double dipping on the mobility aspects AND defensive aspect you get with using fortify in your links.


The change I'm suggesting could simply be phase one of fixing melee mobility skills and has enough time to test this properly internally before the deployment of the next league.

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Tortunga a écrit :

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__Z__ a écrit :

Make fortify only active when there's at least one enemy at close range ?
That will solve all problem isn't it ?
something like grayed out or vanishing when not close will suffice. caster and bower must rely on things like worm flask or something in order to keep it up...

It won't do anything, as fortify only works with melee abilities. Bow users never could use fortify, and casters needs a movement skill to activate it.


For the topic I'm hoping they will remove fortify soon and try to rebalance the survival difference between ranged and melee builds. They already changed volatile to be more melee friendly. I think if they reduce spike hits, somehow make off-screening less effective, add some melee-favored monsters/rare mods/map mods (Like Diablo 3's mortar mod that has a minimum fire range), fortify wouldn't even be needed.

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Orbaal a écrit :

Yeah well the only relevant point (to me) is, GGG seems to be fine with the situation as is and thus its unlikely they´ll act.
If they wanted, they´d already be done with it by now.

Doesnt mean you cant ask for changes or anything like that.
Ofc you can but you should be realistic about your odds to actually achieve changes.
"Never tell me the odds!" - I know ^^
But still, its looking grim for your proposal mate.

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goetzjam a écrit :

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Orbaal a écrit :

Yeah well the only relevant point (to me) is, GGG seems to be fine with the situation as is and thus its unlikely they´ll act.
If they wanted, they´d already be done with it by now.

Doesnt mean you cant ask for changes or anything like that.
Ofc you can but you should be realistic about your odds to actually achieve changes.
"Never tell me the odds!" - I know ^^
But still, its looking grim for your proposal mate.

Are they fine with it?

Because that video (if its the same one Im thinking of) says they are unhappy with it, but don't want to destroy mobility skills.


Removing fortify from melee mobility skills would NOT ruin the faced paced game people seem to love, but it would put a greater risk of players doing so, which is def a fair tradeoff.

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I_NO a écrit :

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goetzjam a écrit :

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Orbaal a écrit :

Yeah well the only relevant point (to me) is, GGG seems to be fine with the situation as is and thus its unlikely they´ll act.
If they wanted, they´d already be done with it by now.

Doesnt mean you cant ask for changes or anything like that.
Ofc you can but you should be realistic about your odds to actually achieve changes.
"Never tell me the odds!" - I know ^^
But still, its looking grim for your proposal mate.

Are they fine with it?

Because that video (if its the same one Im thinking of) says they are unhappy with it, but don't want to destroy mobility skills.


Removing fortify from melee mobility skills would NOT ruin the faced paced game people seem to love, but it would put a greater risk of players doing so, which is def a fair tradeoff.

I will tell you that they're fine with it and everything in this thread that you're trying to do? It doesn't matter.