Sometimes Atlas bosses can be too strong.

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Sahdrak a écrit :

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PleiadesBlackstar a écrit :

I meant your characters are hidden. Need to go to your profile and change settings.

Take a look now.

What is your life sitting at, I will say right off the bat your gear is wholely inadequate life wise. There should be a minimum of 60 flat life on every single gear piece aside from the weapon. You can get over 100 easily on a belt.

Second willing to go out on a limb and guess you aren't resistance capped for minimum mapping with 135 in the brackets. I may be wrong because I'm lazy and don't like to add up all the resists on gear and tree but just from a quick glance... yeah.


And while Fruz was being judgmental of you (we kind of all are right now) its not misplaced considering your gear. If you are trying to push higher maps, the safety net of effective hp goes up ever so slightly, and then larger with each step in the higher maps. The tower map you died in with no mods is easily showing that you need much more effective life (and probably resists). This late in the league you can get your ele resists capped and life to at minimum 5k and be golden until at least tier 9.

The reasons people are judgmental on the forums in threads like this is because usually the OP is in fact wrong about something. Not saying it is a bad aspect of you or any other OP, but it just happens 99% of the time: "Why am I dying?" "Why did you take CI and Blood Magic?" or extremely similar situations to yours. Hence when we respond, we are fairly certain that we at minimum have better game knowledge and experience than the person asking. This does kind of feed into a downward spiral sometimes because OP's will take it more and more personally when it is not intended to be more than honest criticism (and most of the time accurate) at first.

If I am wrong about the quick glance sorry, if you are pushing that 5k life and capped resists, then it does seem very peculiar.

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Sahdrak a écrit :

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PleiadesBlackstar a écrit :

Now I am starting to wonder if you are running around with like 2k hp or something. Can we see your character?

Because in the links you gave, you died to a non modded shared boon mob. While the arc spellcaster can and do crit hard, for somebody with an account age like yours, a non modded shared boon mob should be paltry.

Very strong sense that there is something wrong with your characters if this is happening, not the game.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Sahdrak/characters

The character I am playing in named plowitin

And in build + items the problem resides.

There is a reason why Path of Exile was named "Path of Life Nodes"...

And not even relying on a 5L to deal damage with a modest weapon...

I did the same thing that you did a long time ago, and hovered around 4K HP due to overinvesting in damage nodes, but now I do prefer to invest in fewer damage points on the skill tree and optimise my damage with items.

You should have picked every life node available, Life and Armour beats Life Regeneration at 0.8/s at your level at the start of pathing, not picking Barbarism and focusing on Diamond Skin + additional resistance nodes was a mistake, just as rushing towards Indomitable was, and relying on the Combat Stamina nodes too.

At least the Combat Stamina cluster should be replaced by the Golem's Blood one, that's next to the Cloth and Chain, because you trade 0.2 additional regen and 40% increased armour for 15% increased life.

Drop the Mana Flows cluster, and spec the last 5% increase life node beside Bravery and if you still insist on using Elemental Weakness and Discipline, spec into Wisdom of the Glade for 30 additional Intelligence.

You would be better served by using jewels to boost your Intelligence, and increase your life/res/damage too, and you have to spec into the Scion life wheel if you want to have at least a small chance of reaching higher than blue tier maps.

Not to mention that all your investments in armour could be replaced by using Enduring Cry, and further invest in Endurance Charges too. A Granite and a Basalt flask are more useful than keeping 2 instant bleeding counters, especially due to your use of the Magnate belt...

Your 2H axe should be replaced as soon as possible, just as you need a better 5L armour. The helmet, gloves, boots could use an upgrade too. And wearing jewellery that has life on it should be a mandatory requirement.

Really, you have a lot of work ahead in optimising the build, and also in finishing Labyrinth and picking an Ascendancy - either Berserker or Juggernaut - will do wonders for your damage output and survival too...

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PleiadesBlackstar a écrit :

What is your life sitting at, I will say right off the bat your gear is wholely inadequate life wise.

2,336 life

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PleiadesBlackstar a écrit :

There should be a minimum of 60 flat life on every single gear piece aside from the weapon.

You know good and well that is not realistic.

You will not be able to craft every item. As far as I know, uniques are not craftable and some items have no room for more mods.

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sofocle10000 a écrit :

And not even relying on a 5L to deal damage with a modest weapon...

Before you criticize, my fiancee and I just now saved enough currency to craft a 5 linked item.

Explain exactly how I am supposed to have 5 link item when none drop and I have to save currency to link them

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Sahdrak a écrit :

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Fruz a écrit :

But seriously, we can't see anything like this, there is definitely a problem with your character, as it's lready showing that it's not just the boss that is a problem, and those are just blue mobs.

Plus you are in the middle of them, the middle, which means that you just rushed without knowing the limits of your character at all and what the mobs could do.
=> It's not only your character, it's also how you are playing it that is wrong it seems.

Stop jumping to conclusions and assumptions, it makes you look like a hormonal 14 year old.

I do not have any of these issues outside the atlas. Not a single one hit kill boss, no mobs that kill in one ONE second, not three seconds... etc.

You seem to think you opinion counts more than mine, guess what, it doesn't.

Check my steam profile, over 800 hours in POE. Stop treating me like I just started playing this game

Your steam profile has little to no relevance here I am afraid.
I tried to keep it neutral, yet you are going with your "you sound like a hormonal 14 year old" without answering any of what I said .....
And it all still stands.


- If you die in the very middle of a blue pack in a narrow corner : you just have been reckless, with a build that does not allow you to do so : miss play, plain and simple.
And it was not a boss problem there.


- Now let's take a look at your gear.
boots : absolutely terrible, no life, no movespeed
belt : not good because you really lack tankyness
gloves : terrible, no life, no attack speed, no elemental resistances
helmet : almost okay, much better than the rest, life + resistances + okay armour ( not great but still okay )
chest : bad, 4L only, no life, no resistances, and you chose to craft a +14 all attributes on it
amulet : pretty much trash tier there, not much useful for your build, 4 useless affixes basically, and no life / no good resistances
rings : a bit better than the rest, not really great but at least they give you a bit of life and resistances

=> big problems with your gear.
You should look for life rolls, then to cap your elemental resistances, then ideally get some armour and they if you can some chaos resistances, no need to cap this one.

It looks like you don't even cap your resistances here for merciless and maps.
You also have no flask against curses and nothing against freeze.

Your offensive nodes are mostly about physical attack damage with axes, yet your axe is almost half elemental .... which is obviously not good.
You need + %phys damage, + flat damage and +%attack speed on a good weapon, and it costs like nothing on the market.
Some very cheap unique axes are much better than yours ( Kaom's privacy for example )

About your passive skill tree .. you have what .... 60% inc maximum life ?
You need at least twice more to start feeling comfortable.

About your links :
- added fire damage is bad with flame golem there, your flame golem does not deal much damage to begin with imho (I could be wrong though, I'm not very knowledgeable on golems)
- I would not want to link sunder with inc attack speed + multistrike without damage increases on a 4L, you should be using concentrated effect to start with, and I say that having leveling up to 94 in BHC with sunder.
- Why do you even have discipline socketed ?



You can try to improve your character from what I (and other have) said now, or you can keep dying in situations that you find unfair .... but that likely aren't.

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Fruz a écrit :

And it all still stands.

- If you die in the very middle of a blue pack in a narrow corner : you just have been reckless, with a build that does not allow you to do so : miss play, plain and simple.
And it was not a boss problem there.


- Now let's take a look at your gear.
boots : absolutely terrible, no life, no movespeed
belt : not good because you really lack tankyness
gloves : terrible, no life, no attack speed, no elemental resistances
helmet : almost okay, much better than the rest, life + resistances + okay armour ( not great but still okay )
chest : bad, 4L only, no life, no resistances, and you chose to craft a +14 all attributes on it
amulet : pretty much trash tier there, not much useful for your build, 4 useless affixes basically, and no life / no good resistances
rings : a bit better than the rest, not really great but at least they give you a bit of life and resistances

The pack moved over my body after I was killed.

Please explain "exactly" how I am supposed to have good gear like what you want when:

1 - none drop

2 - what I use orbs on turns out to be junk.

Half elemental for monsters who resist certain types of attack, you should know this

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Sahdrak a écrit :

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sofocle10000 a écrit :

And not even relying on a 5L to deal damage with a modest weapon...

Before you criticize, my fiancee and I just now saved enough currency to craft a 5 linked item.

Explain exactly how I am supposed to have 5 link item when none drop and I have to save currency to link them

http://poe.trade/search/ihagonaniniata

5L chests with a bit or armour + life

starts at 1 chaos, there is no need to save, even a normal playthrough should bring you at least 5 of those before your reach maps.



You need to select your gear better, your also didn't craft good mods on your gear either.
Upgrading your gear really costs close to nothing in this case, and one or two hours with picking better gear from the floor would give you upgrades.

You might not be using your orb in the best way either, if you know the probability, you don't just craft gear at that level in most cases because it is not worth it.

From the responses I'm seeing here, I don't think OP wants to trade in order to get the gear he needs. He's avoiding comments suggesting the market and he's focusing on crafting and sharing orbs he and his fiance loot.

And if that's correct, I'm afraid this game isn't for you. I've learned a long time ago that if you want to make it anywhere in this game, you have to understand how the trade game works. If you don't treat trading as the main attraction and actual gameplay as a minigame, you're going to progress slowly if not at all.

Best of luck to you if you think you can craft Shaper-worthy gear with the garbage you find on the floor. You should still reconsider your passive tree though, GG gear ain't worth anything if you don't have the nodes to make them useful.

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Fruz a écrit :

5L chests with a bit or armour + life

starts at 1 chaos, there is no need to save, even a normal playthrough should bring you at least 5 of those before your reach maps.

You need to select your gear better, your also didn't craft good mods on your gear either.
Upgrading your gear really costs close to nothing in this case, and one or two hours with picking better gear from the floor would give you upgrades.

5 link chest?

I thought I had been selecting the best gear I have been able to find or craft.

If you are concerned about not having enough currency, whether trading or crafting, I feel like you have been gathering currency inefficiently. Once I am in end game, I am able to accumulate plenty of alteration orbs among others by being efficient with what items I pick up and vendor each map without taking a lot of time looking.

Follow up questions/advice:

Do you have a loot filter?
Do you do any vendor recipes?

60+ life on everything minus any uniques you need (magnate isn't a very hot commodity nowadays. It's stats may easily be better replaced by a rare belt with 100+ life like I suggested) is realistic, as long as you are trading with poe.trade. Should be dirt cheap this late in league like I said. Factors that impact this though are if you are intending on trading, how your currency accumulation has been and such. If you want to play more solo self found and crafting, yeah, it will take longer, but doable. You shouldn't be looking at a chest piece and think "yay 2 30% resists and a free spot to craft +30 life on it" at your level. It should be more of a matter of life first, resists and armour second, craft addition resists/armour as needed. Farming dried lake can easily pop out a 70+ life roll on a chest, 60+ on everything else but belt.
Don't quote me verbatim about all this though, your mileage may vary as you seem to not be as experienced developing a currency pool as I first anticipated, including the fact that you share with your fiancee. I should know: GF and mine's legacy wealth pool and we are filthy casuals -

And this is what your currency should start looking at while burning through more currency that isn't shown because of map crafting and such. You're going to have to get a bit over that first hurdle. Farm something your character is actually able to safely do, gather up some orbs by vendor recipe for chaos or just id and sell everything without self usable mods, and trade up to reach that 5k, maxed ele resists threshold, afterwards, all these maps you currently feel are too strong will tickle.

Take a look at this if you need a bit of a clarifier how to go about this if you aren't used to trading. Yoji's example of 30 chaos is a fairly decent budget. Alts to chaos is 14:1 so even id and vendor all junk rares should be a quick couple of hours of grinding to put you on the right track. Hell you could even probably pull off your first decent gear setup for something more like 12 chaos if you are careful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nPysySQ9YM

Keep in mind, if you try to purchase crap in the middle of a current race time right now, many sellers won't respond. Try to pay attention to the race schedule particularly for 1 hour races.