GGG, don't favour streamers for CBT access.

I'm just replying to OP as I did not have time to read whole thread yet.

I would in fact go the opposite direction if I'm GGG, I would simply let most well known streamers into the beta (still not sure if at the very start or a bit later) to ensure publicity and information flow to the masses. My view is that most of the streamers are also very knowledgeable about the game so they should be able to provide good feedback.

I can only assume closed beta will start with few thousands of invites, which mean that 50 or 100 spots for streamers is very marginal difference.

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otinanai2 a écrit :

So a potential new player catches a streamer playing act 4 closed beta and asks "wow cool game is it free to play?". The streamer answers "yeah but you can't play right now, try coming back in 2-3 months when it's out of closed beta. I can play because I'm a streamer and get special treatment.".

How on earth is that "promoting the game"? If anything it will drive new people away.

Depends if the guy recieving that answer actually understands the concept of betas. In case that you don't, its hardly a free demo as there's pretty heavy chances a lot of issues will arise during it, specially considering the new server techs they're introducing.

From having played in most of Blizzard's recent betas, i can promise you that if they widely open it to everyone it might actually drag them down, schedule-wise, as they will have to slog through endless amounts of pointless complaints purely related to the nature of a beta to find any useful feedback, which might cause problems as they most likely don't have a QA team nearly as large as Blizzard.

Note that i'm not saying that to point that i'd be better suited than others for it, not really interested in played in betas myself anymore, just don't have the time to bother with it, i prefer playing the finished product.

Besides why would a new player worry about A4 when he has 3 others to go trhough first?

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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :

Replace a mirror with cbt.

L oh fucking L

Nubatron: maybe not a list... but there are likely some... unhelpful individuals who shouldn't be holding their breaths for personal selection.

GGG need no fair-weather friends.

The folks that I'm referring too don't even deserve the label fair-weather friends. They are never friends or friendly and I don't even think they know what fair weather looks like. For them, it is always raining.

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CliveHowlitzer a écrit :

I think they should favor people that are knowledgeable about the game and will provide good feedback regarding balance and will seek out technical issues. That is how all betas should work. You favor those and then fill in the rest with a random draw.

I do agree with Clive (though I am basically F***ing myself :) ).

Looking at the title and OP thread, I agree from experience that "streamers" =/= "providing good fair feedback", but yes, again what Clive said.

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Boem a écrit :

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I agree what Clive said, people that are knowledgeable and give good feedback around balance and such should get priority for cbt. Yes it sucks for the rest but hey at least GGG said there will be a few things to keep everyone happy.

Oh and back before the release of the game we had to pay 10$ to get into the closed beta or get picked from a lottery. I hope they dont go this route again.

You also need people who will not make the best of plans, put together the most obscure and odd things.. and then stumble over interesting shit.. I'm that category.. sigh..

However, it's been useful in betatests in the past, although those weren't primarily games. I can at least pride myself in finding bugs that "skilled" users would never have come across as they never would have thought to put some of those things together.

Don't think it will be a random draw. more like;

Top streamers(doesn't include nobodies with 70 viewers.) -> People who've actually paid any kind of money(supporter packs, cosmetics) -> Active HC players who win races/are always high in leaderboards
-> random peasants who play for free D:

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otinanai2 a écrit :

So a potential new player catches a streamer playing act 4 closed beta and asks "wow cool game is it free to play?". The streamer answers "yeah but you can't play right now, try coming back in 2-3 months when it's out of closed beta. I can play because I'm a streamer and get special treatment.".

How on earth is that "promoting the game"? If anything it will drive new people away.

This unless GGG has some hidden secret I don't get the point of hyping a closed beta