MANA LEECH IS RUINED

TOPIC IS "MANA IS RUINED" AND WE SPEAK ABOUT "MAGES"

who use totems is not a mage, maybe he is a shaman ahha

I would to add, mana is not ruined, mana is totally broken...

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SL4Y3R a écrit :

Switching to LL shouldn't make any difference. The leech mechanic is the same.

I'm not really concerned about how this applies to spell casters, who must get by on ML

I can't believe somebody from Alpha wouldn't know the differences between the life leech and mana leech mechanics.

1) Life leech happens at a rate of 20% of your max HP pool. Mana leech happens at a rate of 12.5% of your max mana pool.

2) You usually have a shitload more life than mana.

Comprende?

So yes, the mechanics are hilariously different, and it is typically much much much much much much much much MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to support a spell with blood magic than with your mana.

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Umbra_the_Wolf a écrit :

GGG,
[...] you retards [...] please [...]

You have no right to call GGG's members "retards" and I hope that you get on probation for that if they notice it, do you seriously think that insulting them is constructive and will change things ???

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Umbra_the_Wol a écrit :

I literally have to stand still for 10 or more seconds to shoot my fireballs once!! I have 14,000 ES and I am getting crushed on normal lv 66 maps!

ok, so you are trolling in addition as it seems ...

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Fruz a écrit :

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Umbra_the_Wolf a écrit :

GGG,
[...] you retards [...] please [...]

You have no right to call GGG's members "retards" and I hope that you get on probation for that if they notice it, do you seriously think that insulting them is constructive and will change things ???

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Umbra_the_Wol a écrit :

I literally have to stand still for 10 or more seconds to shoot my fireballs once!! I have 14,000 ES and I am getting crushed on normal lv 66 maps!

ok, so you are trolling in addition as it seems ...

You have no right to call somebody a troll in the feedback forum for saying their opinion.

Where are the forum moderators?

Furthermore, your post was completely off-topic, and seem to be antagonistic in nature. It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

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tikitaki a écrit :

So yes, the mechanics are hilariously different

No
Do you know what mechanism stands for ???
The mechanisms are the same, the cap threshold is different.


Nice trolling from you too as well.
You don't bring anything constructive either.

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tikitaki a écrit :

So yes, the mechanics are hilariously different

No
Do you know what mechanism stands for ???
The mechanisms are the same, the cap threshold is different.

This is a contradictory statement. I replied in response to Slayer, who said they are "exactly the same."

They are obviously not "exactly" the same. He also said if you had problems with mana leech, you would also have problems with life leech.

This is also not true, as the mana leech rate is only 62.5% of the life leech rate, and then consider it's based off max mana instead of life.

Basically, the rates are profoundly different.

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Fruz a écrit :

Nice trolling from you too as well.
You don't bring anything constructive either.

Please stop posting antagonistic and off-topic comments.

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Umbra_the_Wol a écrit :

I literally have to stand still for 10 or more seconds to shoot my fireballs once!! I have 14,000 ES and I am getting crushed on normal lv 66 maps!

ok, so you are trolling in addition as it seems ...

He doesn't, without armour, and with that new leech, it's really easy to die, just with some mod of the map, or a corrupted blood, or a bear trap and you die...

while, use a life/armour build, and all the problems are fixed... just need an equip.

From oxford dictionnary :
"A natural or established process by which something takes place or is brought about".

Mana leech and life leech have the exact same mechanisms, period, the threshold variable is just different, that does not make the mechanism(=process) different.

Now thank you for making this topic derail.

PS : It didn't call anyone a troll, I said that the OP ( and you obviously ) are trolling here.
You just came on this topic and "attacked" SL4Y3R with very antagonistic manners, and you call my points antagonistics ? don't make me laugh please.

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Fruz a écrit :

threshold variable is just different

So you admit that they are different, as one of the two variables that defines how quickly you leech and how overall effective it is, is extremely different?

(the other variable tends to be extremely different as well, unless your mana pool is the same as your life pool)

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Fruz a écrit :

Now thank you for making this topic derail.

PS : It didn't call anyone a troll, I said that the OP ( and you obviously ) are trolling here.
You just came on this topic and "attacked" SL4Y3R with very antagonistic manners, and you call my points antagonistics ? don't make me laugh please.

More off topic and antagonistic comments. If you can't make a post without insulting the other person, you shouldn't be posting.

Keep it on topic.

You're the one who derailed it into a semantic argument.

Slayer said you could not have a problem with mana leech without having a problem with life leech. That is obviously not true.

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SL4Y3R a écrit :

Switching to LL shouldn't make any difference.

This statement from Slayer is incorrect.

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Royal a écrit :

He doesn't, without armour, and with that new leech, it's really easy to die, just with some mod of the map, or a corrupted blood, or a bear trap and you die...

while, use a life/armour build, and all the problems are fixed... just need an equip.

He might get wrecked ... but that would be because he just cannot adapt at all.
10 seconds to cast one skill ? is this some kinda of joke seriously ? Because I don't buy that he was sustaining/able to spam a skill that he cannot cast more than once per 10 seconds with only mana leech. He would need a really high mana pool for this, and a really high mana pool imply a high mana regen + a lot of effectiveness coming from mana regeneration modifiers.

This is why I said that OP seems to be trolling.

A lvl66 bear trap is nowhere enough to kill a 14k ES character, and playing without movement skills with CI knowing that bear trap exist is a big mistake.
Same goes for flasks of staunching.

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tikitaki a écrit :

So you admit that they are different, as one of the two variables that defines how quickly you leech and how overall effective it is, is extremely different?

I never said it wasn't, it obviously is.

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tikitaki a écrit :

Slayer said you could not have a problem with mana leech without having a problem with life leech. That is obviously not true.

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SL4Y3R a écrit :

Switching to LL shouldn't make any difference.

This statement from Slayer is incorrect.

I never said that this statement was correct.[/quote]