Your game might be broken when....

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http://www.twitch.tv/shimmra/c/3873061
theoretical hardcore players should watch this video frame by frame


Honestly that video pretty much sums up why I'm playing a SC league for the first time in a year. Most bosses are ok but any boss that has the ability to hit from such a far range needs downtuning. You should be able to see a boss if they're going to hit that hard. Totem summoning boss/maker of rain/rima/haviri(shown in vid)/judgement apparatus all need a second look.

That alched map was pretty much one of the easiest yellow maps anyone can do so please no lectures about standing on shocked ground.


Same here. Unlike the previous hardcore leagues, the difficulty isn't mitigated by improved player skill, it is mitigated my mindless over level farming to give good enough gear for extremely slow progression.

Lvl 80 to progress through A3 Merci. Can it be done sooner? Yes. Reasonably safely? No.
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Haven't been watching streams or reading forums much. Just cautiously soloing with a SB Templar so I can have a few hand-me-downs for more interesting but less viable builds.

This thread has made me realize just how lucky I've gotten so far. I have not encountered any of these bosses yet and I've been doing maps. If I had encountered them, as with all bosses I would have "checked" their damage to see whether or not I could attempt them. My caution and slow pace would maybe have saved me from the two first linked vids, but I would have died instantly in the other situations. Getting oneshot or twoshot+stun from range or offscreen is simply bad design.

Really glad I randomly decided to open this thread and skim it. I am now terrified of going anywhere without a totem ahead of me. Had a level 84 melee Shadow in Nemesis, guess I won't be doing that ever again!


Good luck to you sir. Totem/ enfeeble every step and you have a chance. Maybe a ranged totem with split arrow, curse on hit and enfeeble?
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Haven't been watching streams or reading forums much. Just cautiously soloing with a SB Templar so I can have a few hand-me-downs for more interesting but less viable builds.

This thread has made me realize just how lucky I've gotten so far. I have not encountered any of these bosses yet and I've been doing maps. If I had encountered them, as with all bosses I would have "checked" their damage to see whether or not I could attempt them. My caution and slow pace would maybe have saved me from the two first linked vids, but I would have died instantly in the other situations. Getting oneshot or twoshot+stun from range or offscreen is simply bad design.

Really glad I randomly decided to open this thread and skim it. I am now terrified of going anywhere without a totem ahead of me. Had a level 84 melee Shadow in Nemesis, guess I won't be doing that ever again!


You either have godly RNG or godly RNG. I might have to go back to normal to find the last Invasion boss I'm missing because about half the bosses I now encounter in cruel are not Invasion bosses but bosses from corrupted areas, which are generally more nasty. Cintiq was the only boss I'd see regularly in normal and wasn't much of a big deal after dying to it the first time around.

Now I'm fighting bosses I've never even seen before. Good times. (seriously having fun not QQing. Even when I die.)


I felt that way the first few times I died. But eventually it got to be to much. My initial feeling was my builds were not tanky enough, then I thought I just needed to slow down, and learn the bosses.... then I tried progressing slower ( more over leveled) and eventually I realized all of those combined were not enough to overcome some of the boss situations. If a boss can off screen 1 shot you you if 100 things line up (curses, map mods, etc) no problem. If it takes 100 things to line up for the bosses not to off screen you then it is a balance problem.
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Heh, the moment I log back on after posting that, I run into Chaska BEHIND Piety in Lunaris 3. So that's where she was all along!


Survive?
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Heh, the moment I log back on after posting that, I run into Chaska BEHIND Piety in Lunaris 3. So that's where she was all along!


Survive?


Yeah, I've seen the new bosses spawn in boss rooms before, and obviously I hadn't encountered it on the way there, so I was approaching Piety in her room very slowly. Thought about pulling them apart, though!
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Invasion is fun. Most bosses are quite reasonable. I find it confusing that some people are against some obviously overtuned bosses having better balance.


It's not confusing at all. They just enjoy it when a high level and or popular streamer gets knocked down a peg. They like to call those people baddies and such.

You'll notice not one person that says these bosses are balanced even has a character over 60.

Personally my highest is 54. I've lost 4 summoners in my 50's because i've been playing wrong. I've actually been trying to kill the invasion bosses. 2 times to lightning orb and 2 times to the miscreant.

I just cannot kill them and die in less then 1 second. I'm discouraged to even make another invasion character because in order for me to progress, I have to carebear it up and avoid bosses and reset instances and skip content. Makes no sense, but i'll die 100% if I don't. And I don't want to play that way.

So for now, just playing coop with my wife in ambush very casually while enjoying darksouls 2 until ggg fixes this balance.

ps. People saying that they need to up the rewards on these bosses to make people want to fight them. um.. no. I don't care if it dropped 20 uniques, i'm not fighting titty bitch unless i'm in a group and hiding around 2 corners. But even then the boss wouldn't die and she would just one shot everyone in turn.
Ignorance is for fools, and for the bliss.
Dernière édition par Covet#3820, le 13 mars 2014 à 17:28:09
Ditch HC and have fun like the rest of us.

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