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Real_Wolf a écrit :
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Betrunken a écrit :
Your game might be broken when... The Dominus is the least stressful part of a Dom run.
Uh, no it isn't. The dom fight is more challenging than killing easy mobs early. Maybe you are doing it wrong
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Betrunken a écrit :
Your game might be broken when... An alt+f4 reaction speed competition will accurately predict the league ladder
Uh, no it won't. The use of alt+f4 costs a lot of time, wastes map portals, etc. This is not really true at all. Sure, some people use this, but in the HC league it isn't as common as people make it out to be, and in the non-hc league no one cares
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Betrunken a écrit :
Your game might be broken when... The third best feeling in the game is making it to the midway waypoint on the ledge without running into a new unique.
Uh, maybe Invasion isn't for you. Actually I get the feeling you are totally not the sort of persion Invasion was made for
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Betrunken a écrit :
Your game might be broken wnen... the second best feeling in the game is Glassmaul spawning at the entrance of instance.
Yes, definitely getting the feeling you are just complaining because you find the game too hard. Go play a different league if you don't want that. You could play HC instead of Invasion, not have those bosses, same gameplay essentially
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Betrunken a écrit :
Your game might be broken when... The best feeling in the game is logging back in to see a red banner next to your characters name.
Going to repeat my above here. You seem unhappy. Maybe go look at the reason for it when you have chosen this option
Real wolf, This was posted to bring some humor to an unfunny situation.Also I have played HC, Anarchy and Nemesis. I die, make mistakes, whatever. I love the difficulty and the high cost of making mistakes. Last time I played softcore was back in CB. It was boring.
I was exited for Invasion. I though a tough fight in each map would be great. Instead of a tough fight, they gave a good chance to have a near impossible fight... to get 1 shot from off screen.
The mobs before DOM are easy. THe Uniques that spawn in every instance are not. The stress I was talking about was worrying about getting one shot. When a random monster is 10x more dangerous than an end game boss... there is a problem.
Before you start making comments about how things are done in HC modes or how difficult things are or what kind of person HC mode is for... maybe you should try it. All of your characters are in standard and ambush.
Dernière édition par Betrunken#6808, le 11 mars 2014 à 21:58:02
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Posté parBetrunken#6808le 11 mars 2014 à 21:56:39
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They were both careless in a league were carelessness will get you killed 90% of the time.
Well they both didn't realize the bosses were there. I actually had to rewatch the video myself to spot the bosses..(knowing full well they'd die).
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Posté parkasub#2910le 11 mars 2014 à 21:57:22
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SL4Y3R a écrit :
Real HC players use esc exit.
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Posté parBetrunken#6808le 11 mars 2014 à 21:58:51
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Caiada a écrit :
GGG believes that there should be situations where you die 100% of the time if you are not omniscient or have previous knowledge of the boss. This is the same sort of balancing Blizzard North, GGG's unfailing role model, used way back in Classic D2 when MSLE existed and would just one-shot you in melee range or when Iron Maiden was still on Oblivion Knights.
If you disagree with their balance, well, don't play Hardcore. It's not going to change.
I am ok with this. But having a to remember 60 bosses, and having less than 2 seconds to react to a randomly placed boss that can 1-2 shot a super tanky build is taking it to the extreme.
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Posté parBetrunken#6808le 11 mars 2014 à 22:02:45
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kasub a écrit :
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They were both careless in a league were carelessness will get you killed 90% of the time.
Well they both didn't realize the bosses were there. I actually had to rewatch the video myself to spot the bosses..(knowing full well they'd die).
That was one of their mistakes. The only time I relax even the slightest is after I've killed the invasion boss on the map. Before that I take every. single. corner. assuming that in the next room, I could die.
In the second click the leap slamming around like that shows he clearly does not have any respect or fear of what might be waiting for him in the rooms ahead. He might have cleared these rooms before and just backtracking, I'm not sure.
In the first video, I knew he was dead a full min before he knew he was dead. I saw the zerg of Vaal Constructs and I know what that means, Judgment Appartatimus Maximus. I formally request GGG change this bosses name for the amount of tears it has induced.
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Posté parClocksimus#6123le 11 mars 2014 à 22:05:59
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Clocksimus a écrit :
"So maybe you could share your techniques for avoiding this death:
http://www.twitch.tv/fleepqc/b/509542640 @ 2:26:00
Or maybe a way to avoid this death:
http://www.twitch.tv/colbycheeze/c/3867563"
First video.... Judgement Apparatus (Epic name for Epic nub stomper)
Note what curse he has on him.
Note he had this curse one him for a very long time before he died.
Note you can see the boss which he claims he can not see in the top right of the screen for along time.
Note that he did not get 1 shot but got hit by 2 lightning balls twice for a total of 4 hits at least "one shot".
He could have avoided this death by respecting the Boss and not just assuming "oh i'm pro nothing to worry about."
Enfeeble. Kiting. Remove curse flask. Live to fight another Invasion boss.
Second video.... Her name eludes me atm but another "imbalance" boss.
Note that again, you see the boss on the screen for a long time... while the player just chills standing still hitting monsters like nothing is about to happen to him.
Note again the lack of enfeeble, kiting, or even temporal chains. This even a worse example as along with the boss this character is tanking a decent amount of dps already from the massive amount of monsters infront of the boss.
Enfeeble. quicksilver flasks. Kite. Dual curse if you have means temp chains. Chill or freeze effects if you have them. Arctic Armour might work against the attack but it seems to be large hits not a massive amount of smalls hits. Live to fight another Invasion boss. Any kind of defensive aura or flasks. He did show you an example of what not to do with a Jade flask, don't activate it then complain about your durability.
I'm sure you won't agree and clearly these bosses are imbalance and the players made zero mistakes. Just stopping by... Not sure why I bother anymore to be completely honest.
Hindsight is 20/20. It is easier to spot the Boss when you know there should be one and your not concerned with the mobs right next to you.
Can the bosses be defeated. Sure. Efficiently... no. Safely... no. Is there any reward for fighting them.... no.
IF your going to put random bosses throughout the game that are more dangerous than end game bosses they at least should drop gear better than end game bosses. A little reward for the risk? As it is... the reward is you get to keep playing in the league... the risk... you do not.
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Posté parBetrunken#6808le 11 mars 2014 à 22:06:24
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kasub a écrit :
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They were both careless in a league were carelessness will get you killed 90% of the time.
Well they both didn't realize the bosses were there. I actually had to rewatch the video myself to spot the bosses..(knowing full well they'd die).
Exactly. I had to watch the second video multiple times before I noticed the slightly larger tentacle miscreation in the middle of all the other miscreations. I still don't see the boss in the other video. Yeah, it's obviously somewhere on the platform in the middle of the room.
No way I would have seen either boss when playing normally.
Dernière édition par kruemel2222#3103, le 11 mars 2014 à 22:15:58
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Posté parkruemel2222#3103le 11 mars 2014 à 22:11:30
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That was one of their mistakes. The only time I relax even the slightest is after I've killed the invasion boss on the map. Before that I take every. single. corner. assuming that in the next room, I could die.
How high have you reached in invasion? I died in sewers to that vaal construct when I had seen no other ones, I was actually shot without even seeing the boss at all.
You're taking this to absolute extremes. Obviously these people have gone through 100+ bosses already to reach where they are now so it's silly to act like they don't know what they're doing.
Could they have avoided the death? Absolutely. You can obviously avoid every death in PoE if you had hindsight. It doesn't make the bosses balanced. I actually think GGG did a great job with most bosses but pretending every boss is well designed and balanced is silly.
I honestly would have died to the tentacle miscreation too. She absolutely blended in with the rest of the enemies in a location where those enemies are the norm. She is very much overtuned.
Dernière édition par kasub#2910, le 11 mars 2014 à 22:17:52
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Posté parkasub#2910le 11 mars 2014 à 22:11:43
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Clocksimus a écrit :
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kasub a écrit :
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They were both careless in a league were carelessness will get you killed 90% of the time.
Well they both didn't realize the bosses were there. I actually had to rewatch the video myself to spot the bosses..(knowing full well they'd die).
That was one of their mistakes. The only time I relax even the slightest is after I've killed the invasion boss on the map. Before that I take every. single. corner. assuming that in the next room, I could die.
In the second click the leap slamming around like that shows he clearly does not have any respect or fear of what might be waiting for him in the rooms ahead. He might have cleared these rooms before and just backtracking, I'm not sure.
In the first video, I knew he was dead a full min before he knew he was dead. I saw the zerg of Vaal Constructs and I know what that means, Judgment Appartatimus Maximus. I formally request GGG change this bosses name for the amount of tears it has induced.
I couldn't help but notice you set your profile to private after everyone realized you don't even play HC.
I also couldn't help but notice that you mention arctic armor when you can clearly see the guy activated arctic armor and can hear him say "I even activated arctic armor". Also, you clearly have 0 understanding of game mechanics as this particular boss has resolute technique, and activating a jade flask would be irrelevant anyways as colby already had 95% to dodge projectiles via Ondar's (which is already at the cap).
For somebody who claims to know the counter to everything, you clearly don't know what you're talking about at all. I still can't tell you after watching these videos 4 times where the bosses are in that big clusterfuck of mobs.
But no, you're right, the bosses are balanced, it's just that all the guys who have been streaming hardcore for years are new and bad and don't know how to play the game. Maybe we should learn how to play hardcore by watching all your ambush league experience.
I could go on, but you're clearly wasting our time with pointless trolling. What a joke.
my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
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Bug Fixes:
People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. Dernière édition par Legatus1982#1658, le 11 mars 2014 à 22:26:23
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Posté parLegatus1982#1658le 11 mars 2014 à 22:15:48
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My view on the invasion league in a different thread: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/825946
If you want more to read ^^
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Posté parZerucos#2259le 11 mars 2014 à 22:21:50
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