Soul Taker needs a nerf

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Tanakeah a écrit :
Soul Taker to me is a good representation of a weapon that 'fixes' an issue in the game that has been around for a while and that is the mana cost of melee skills for melee. Or rather, more specifically, the sustainability of melee skills and not being slaved into either the Blood Magic passive, or the Blood Magic gem,(...)


Proper cleave builds got away with less than 6 nodes dedicated to mana and that is without blood magic and without mana leech gem. Mana management was never an issue for cleavers at least.

But yeah since you show infernal blow build, you may be right about that build.
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Dernière édition par mazul#2568, le 14 août 2013 à 12:41:24
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mazul a écrit :
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Tanakeah a écrit :
Soul Taker to me is a good representation of a weapon that 'fixes' an issue in the game that has been around for a while and that is the mana cost of melee skills for melee. Or rather, more specifically, the sustainability of melee skills and not being slaved into either the Blood Magic passive, or the Blood Magic gem,(...)


Proper cleave builds got away with less than 6 nodes dedicated to mana and that is without blood magic and without mana leech gem. Mana management was never an issue for cleavers at least.

But yeah since you show infernal blow build, you may be right about that build.


Yeah, Cleave wasn't too much of an issue as I ended up trading someone a necklace that had like 2% mana leech (and other stats) and he was a dual-wieldign sword user. He had very, very few issues with mana to fuel his Cleave, though he was also a 5L user and not a 6L like me, so the extra mana cost comes into play there. But in any case...yeah...Infernal Blow is a blast to play for me (no pun intended), but it chews through mana since the damage is mostly elemental and physical ML gets the short end there.
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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :
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Bozon a écrit :
It is just a beginning, I'm telling ya.

More Eternal Packs, more OP uniques getting done. Apocalypse is yet to come.


The irony is the 'designer' of Soul Taker had nothing to do with the design. He just said something like 'make it cool' and a certain dev, who shall remain unnamed but really should know better, went and made this ridiculous beast.

Plenty of Diamond/Eternal uber, silly ideas get vetoed. Plenty.

So please don't blame the Diamonds/Eternals for this. Just don't. :)

Oh, and the whole 'its dps isn't that great' argument? That might fly in WoW, but anyone who's made a halfway decent build here will tell you that dps is facile and far from the only factor to be considered.

Important, sure, but not the great measuring stick some folks make it out to be.

As stated earlier, it's not the numbers of Soul Taker that make it ridiculous; it's what it can do. You could halve the damage of Soul Taker and it'd still be a formidable piece of gear. That IAS, the chill on attack, the fact that you can keep on using your insane 200 mana cost attack until the cows come home and possibly die...

It is an embarrassing item, top to bottom. The sad thing is I know the real intentions of it and it makes me genuinely sad to see a great idea burned on a weapon that does nothing but shit on other weapons.

I have also heard, vaguely, that the person who designed Soul Taker (and I'm not talking about siffin/duolc, the Diamond supporter who funded Soul Taker) feels it's not overpowered based partly on possible future game changes.

When I heard that, all I saw was 'I'm a dev and I'm using my inside knowledge to create this thing that is overpowered now but won't be later you'll just have to trust me on that oh and tough shit to all the other diamond and eternal unique designers who don't have such foreknowledge and thus whose designs, not by ME, are going to look crap in comparison.'

Soul Taker is an embarrassment.


you are mad just like the rest of these butthurt newbs, mad cuz u can't afford it? IT is interesting and a geniuenly good item. We don't need 100% trash uniques that have little to no use, sure they can be cool now and then but there need to be some "strong" stuff in the game otherwise you will have to completely rely on a linear rare itemization. There is a reason some stuff cost 20ex etc, it is special and rewards the very best players. I for one appricate this item a lot.

It isn't like mana really is a problem, most of these 200mana skills can be fixed easily with 2% mana leech on a gear piece or the passive node. Allows you to squeeze 1 more aura, that isn't the whole world..
Dernière édition par neroscapegod#7009, le 14 août 2013 à 12:59:23
Item is very very strong.
Been chancing siege axes since it came out.
Definitely overpowered. There really isn't anything to discuss.
I made a video for you guys to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMfQ7oBI7o&feature=youtu.be
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DestroTheGod a écrit :
I made a video for you guys to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMfQ7oBI7o&feature=youtu.be


How can you so casually allow Quicksilver flasks to rot!
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DestroTheGod a écrit :
I made a video for you guys to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMfQ7oBI7o&feature=youtu.be


Not to be a dick, but you made a video of you farming LEDGE, a 53 zone, with a character who has to be at least 59 to even equip the axe. I'd be embarrassed if you COULDNT one shot everything.

That said, ever seen a discharger run Ledge? He'd be on his 3rd run by the time you finished that first.
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ownyaah a écrit :


you are mad just like the rest of these butthurt newbs, mad cuz u can't afford it?


Your name. Your support status. Your attitude. Your typography. Your type of thinking.

*removed*
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You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.
Dernière édition par Luca_GGG#0000, le 14 août 2013 à 18:06:00
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reboticon a écrit :
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DestroTheGod a écrit :
I made a video for you guys to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMfQ7oBI7o&feature=youtu.be


Not to be a dick, but you made a video of you farming LEDGE, a 53 zone, with a character who has to be at least 59 to even equip the axe. I'd be embarrassed if you COULDNT one shot everything.

That said, ever seen a discharger run Ledge? He'd be on his 3rd run by the time you finished that first.


Lol relax, chill man :), it's just for the lulz

Also, It was actually normal ledge :>

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intin a écrit :
How can you so casually allow Quicksilver flasks to rot!


Will grab in the future D:
Dernière édition par DestroTheGod#5470, le 14 août 2013 à 13:17:33
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reboticon a écrit :
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DestroTheGod a écrit :
I made a video for you guys to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMfQ7oBI7o&feature=youtu.be


Not to be a dick, but you made a video of you farming LEDGE, a 53 zone, with a character who has to be at least 59 to even equip the axe. I'd be embarrassed if you COULDNT one shot everything.

That said, ever seen a discharger run Ledge? He'd be on his 3rd run by the time you finished that first.


just facepalm

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