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JohnNamikaze a écrit :
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Xpire a écrit :
It's not the same.... Facebreaker build isn't even that strong and therfore, the item is cheap.
Hah, you just made my day with this statement. I am easily plowing through Lunaris Piety runs, lvl 66-71 maps (except for Temple map since Creama Piety is kinda broken) and have done group mapping from 74-75 rare maps to some extent.
25k dps (with 7 frenzy charges), 15k armor, 83% phy dmg reduction (with 5 endurance charges), 400+ life regen (thanks to Blood Dance), and almost maxed out res (thanks to endurance charges actually maxing them out).
I usually finish mapping in about 6-7min, the low tier ones.
My facebreaker build is not perfect, so I may have some issues here and there at times. I do have to keep the charges up to fully maximize my build, and stay alive longer. Still, this has been my best build so far, and at a cheap price.
:D Melee =/= weak! :3
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Posté parXpire#1522le 29 juil. 2013 à 17:40:20
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UnderOmerta a écrit :
Because it's a build that you wouldn't risk running in HC as anything other than a novelty to prove that you could do it. There's little chance that anyone who values their character in HC would take that kind of build into a high map. Hell, even in softcore, I doubt many people would want to run a build like that in high level maps. Dying in softcore is hours or days of work at higher levels.
Actually, 9/10 sporkers in softcore do low life without shav. It's worth it to grind low level maps with that kind of MF. That's why changing Shavronnes wouldn't do a damn thing as far as softcore leagues go. People would still run lowlife/rf, because they already do. I'm firmly in the " it doesn't affect you, since it's PvE, so why does anyone care?" The items sporkers find end up the market, and that (eventually) brings prices down for everyone. Chances are 90% of melees running around with a BiS melee item bought it from a sporker, or was about to grind 16 hours a day.
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Posté parreboticon#2775le 29 juil. 2013 à 17:58:54
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UnderOmerta a écrit :
Because it's a build that you wouldn't risk running in HC as anything other than a novelty to prove that you could do it. There's little chance that anyone who values their character in HC would take that kind of build into a high map. Hell, even in softcore, I doubt many people would want to run a build like that in high level maps. Dying in softcore is hours or days of work at higher levels.
Actually, 9/10 sporkers in softcore do low life without shav. It's worth it to grind low level maps with that kind of MF. That's why changing Shavronnes wouldn't do a damn thing as far as softcore leagues go. People would still run lowlife/rf, because they already do. I'm firmly in the " it doesn't affect you, since it's PvE, so why does anyone care?" The items sporkers find end up the market, and that (eventually) brings prices down for everyone. Chances are 90% of melees running around with a BiS melee item bought it from a sporker, or was about to grind 16 hours a day.
Yeah sure, you wouldn't mind risking soloing a few low level maps when your character isn't too high of a level without shavs, because the risk usually outweighs the reward.
You would never risk running high level maps in full parties (which is usually where high level maps are run) as a high level character as lowlife without shavs. Which just further reinforces the point. People will run lowlife, non-shavs builds if they are not too concerned about dying. If they are, they would not run it.
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Posté parUnderOmerta#1203le 29 juil. 2013 à 18:05:35
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If you can't afford a Shav's, play another build, or farm until you find one.
Fuckin.rocket.science
I wouldn't mind a Ferrari, but I can't complain about the price tag and have them drop it to my price range, I just ride my BMX instead.
Kids these days just want everything handed to them without working for it.
Shav's is not a right, it's a privilege.
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Posté parHerpy_Derpleson#6025le 29 juil. 2013 à 21:49:28Banni(e)
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It is a build enabler
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Posté parsanleon#0371le 29 juil. 2013 à 22:40:05
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sanleon a écrit :
...that's priced like a luxury item.
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Posté parRogueMage#7621le 29 juil. 2013 à 23:56:33
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Bullshit.
You can play low life/PA/RF without Shav's. You can enable low life activated items and PA without Shav's. You'll just get wrecked by chaos damage later on. Many builds have a downside if you have sub-optimal gear.
It is not build enabling, it is build sustaining.
Your argument is invalid.
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Posté parHerpy_Derpleson#6025le 30 juil. 2013 à 00:43:07Banni(e)
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Also, low life/RF/PA isn't even a build. It is an enhancement to several builds.
The difference between passives compared with say a CI build, is basically just don't take CI, put a point in PA, and maybe pick up a single regen node.
All these Shav's related threads are retarded, at a fundamental level. All made, and argued, by people who lack a basic understanding of the game.
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Posté parHerpy_Derpleson#6025le 30 juil. 2013 à 00:59:49Banni(e)
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Herpy_Derpleson a écrit :
All these Shav's related threads are retarded, at a fundamental level. All made, and argued, by people who lack a basic understanding of the game.
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Posté parDareDog#6481le 30 juil. 2013 à 01:20:25
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Herpy_Derpleson a écrit :
If you can't afford a Shav's, play another build, or farm until you find one.
Fuckin.rocket.science
I wouldn't mind a Ferrari, but I can't complain about the price tag and have them drop it to my price range, I just ride my BMX instead.
Kids these days just want everything handed to them without working for it.
Shav's is not a right, it's a privilege.
Luckily, I am playing another build that pretty much is a 2010 Ford Mustang GT on steroids. I drove it once and literally burned out someone with a LaFerarri. I am glad I only spent 20k USD, instead of over 1 mil USD. I would had bee disappointed since the difference is not that big.
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