Elemental damage completely dominates this game, physical remains useless

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Jakabov a écrit :

People calling physical builds fine tend to think a build that does 75% of its damage as elemental is actually a physical build. If a build uses Hatred, Added Fire Damage and Weapon Elemental Damage, it's not a physical build. Even if you use a weapon with high physical damage, it's an elemental conversion build.

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RogueMage a écrit :

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Jakabov a écrit :

People calling physical builds fine tend to think a build that does 75% of its damage as elemental is actually a physical build. If a build uses Hatred, Added Fire Damage and Weapon Elemental Damage, it's not a physical build. Even if you use a weapon with high physical damage, it's an elemental conversion build.

So the OP's thread title is both half-right and half-assed: Yes, Elemental Damage Completely Dominates this Game, but no, Physical is NOT Useless.

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UnderOmerta a écrit :

There are a number of phys builds out there that are quite viable that don't rely on elemental conversion. They are a bit underpowered compared to elemental damage, or require more point investment, but they are out there, and they do work.

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allbusiness a écrit :

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UnderOmerta a écrit :

There are a number of phys builds out there that are quite viable that don't rely on elemental conversion. They are a bit underpowered compared to elemental damage, or require more point investment, but they are out there, and they do work.

Most of those builds require absurd amounts of gear. It's not like ele dmg gear where you can walk around in really bad gear and still be fine end game. If you don't have top of the line rolls on your weapon + enough gear to stave off phys reflect, you will die/kill much slower than an ele build. It's only if you manage to roll a top of the line phys wep with IPD/Hybrid/Flat Dmg rolls/etc. that you can outclear an Ele build.


And not just that, there's not alot of good physical aoe skills. Sure you can use melee splash, or you can use split arrow, or sweep, blah blah blah. It still doesn't compare to something like GMP Freezing Pulse, Chain/LMP/LA, Spork, etc.

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Moosifer a écrit :

What do you mean math? There's invalesco's build which is physical based. There's also some guy who posted his physical cleave build a while back which had 30k DPS. Then there's all the GS/sweep builds floating around.

Once physical damage starts reaching over 3k damage (not DPS) it will do more damage in almost all case than elemental. Elemental is always going to have to deal with res, even if use curses, it just gets them to what their sheet reads. Physical will remove most/all armor of most mobs and then can throw a curse to do more damage on top. High damage and 1 curse equals what 2 curses and EE will do.

I'll say it again because you guys are thick, physical damage sucks mid game not end. You guys who are claiming that physical sucks end game have never given it a try, stop talking in theory and go play one, come back with some actual knowledge.

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mazul a écrit :

I did find one 30k+ dps cleaver that uses physical damage: ***********. However, only 47.4% of his damage was physical; so it is mostly elemental damage.