Softcore Vs. Hardcore. Can we put it to rest?

Some hardcore players see default as inferior because of the way it's set up. In POE default players will only ever be as good as hardcore players at their worst. Why is this? Well, a hardcore player is at his worst when he has just died. When a hardcore player dies, he's transferred over to default. Default cannot transfer to hardcore. It's a one way street, and is only possible by dying (being bad at the game). Therefore, to some of the hardcore players, hardcore > default.

lol

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What I still don't understand... why suddenly POE? Why did we not read about how pro HC players were in D1... or D2... or D3... or TL... TL2... or TQ... TQ2... or ANY arpg... why now? Why POE?.

I'm still trying to understand the history - I don't get why suddenly this whole SC vs HC thing started in this game... of all arpg games. Why POE? Why now?


I get that maybe there was a post or two in D3 - I didn't get to read those posts even though I was on the forums daily.... but following the history of ARPGs, this is seriously the only time I've ever seen this SC vs HC shit so heavily.... like every 2nd page violently erupts into this... thing. Why?

1) Watch Kripparrian's stream where they use the term "Scrubcore"
2) Read the book "The Tipping Point"

I think catchy insults spread like wildfire and eventually shape the opinions and behavior of internet trolls beyond the original joking nature of the insult.

For me it's all about softcore! I don't really like to play moroncore. (altF4core?)

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I'm still trying to understand the history - I don't get why suddenly this whole SC vs HC thing started in this game... of all arpg games. Why POE? Why now?


I get that maybe there was a post or two in D3 - I didn't get to read those posts even though I was on the forums daily.... but following the history of ARPGs, this is seriously the only time I've ever seen this SC vs HC shit so heavily.... like every 2nd page violently erupts into this... thing. Why?

Just put it at an rest and enjoy the game.

Everyone talking seriously HC-Player>Default-Player stuff is delusional.
There are differences in economy and (sometimes) gaming approach.
Nothing which not every player could adapt to in some gaming sessions.

From the post I read about it from you, you take this discussion way to serious.
Its dumb individuals bragging about their virtual "achievements".
Maybe semi-pro "competitive" players which need their attention.

Serious HC Players are the more silent ones which do it for personal challenge.
Their approach is also applicable in Default League. Getting yourself to your limit,
making your game more challenging yourself is not a matter of the League you choose.

Back when I played D3 i didn't play much hardcore (only got to mid nightmare on hc). Two reasons for that mainly:

1) DC death being a possibility.
2) D3 had 0 replayability so if my character died I could rarely be arsed to roll a new one.

With PoE I've been playing mainly hardcore (90% of my time). And hell, I'm not even that good at it, got 5 RID chars already (RestInDefault xD) ( only made it to mid cruel so far but I think my last char is really gonna be the one !)

The thing is, I've never had to worry about a DC death in PoE and when I do die, starting a new character is A FUN experience because of all the build possibilities and so on.

At any rate, as with most things that are done by a smaller group of people, there will be those doing it that will claim they're special because of it. Just ignore them :P

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mmmstickyickybuds a écrit :

Some hardcore players see default as inferior because of the way it's set up. In POE default players will only ever be as good as hardcore players at their worst. Why is this? Well, a hardcore player is at his worst when he has just died. When a hardcore player dies, he's transferred over to default. Default cannot transfer to hardcore. It's a one way street, and is only possible by dying (being bad at the game). Therefore, to some of the hardcore players, hardcore > default.

There is no better or worse. There is no difficulty difference. This isn't fighting M.Bison on difficulty 7. You can't just "go really slow" and beat difficult games. That's not difficulty, it's just going slower. When I watch someone stream this game in hc, they aren't using twice the skill gems at once and the monsters don't have new abilities. They are doing the SAME EXACT thing that I'm doing, but....really...slow. "Look in the room. Go outta the room. Look in the room. Go outta the room. Go in the room. Kite a monster outta the room." Zero extra skilled involved.

It's an ARPG. RPG's aren't about 1 server lag and your entire char/party is lost. By those standards, Ninja Gaiden and Battletoads are RPG's. Only they aren't, those are just shitty NES games that everyone hated by mid game. We all know that if one of the popular streamers told these idiots "play hc blind folded or it doesn't count. So much "difficulty", so much honor" people would go do it and shit on hc players that don't play blind folded.

Hard cannot rest.

All leagues are the same, you lose nothing in any of them. They are all softcore.

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Y4iNk33zQn7lI999xp22NEtoO0 a écrit :

All leagues are the same, you lose nothing in any of them. They are all softcore.

iam pretty sure you will survive the zombie apocalypse.....iam not even in the mood to explain how much bullshit that comment is