Even the best gaming rig can not run PoE at 120 fps min

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webas a écrit :

GGG optimises its game by waiting.. It waits until tech hardware gets better and better..

2018 is not enough. We need to wait more..

We will need to wait until tech upgrades itself with 50 core cpus and nvidia 9000 titan xxx.. Only many years to wait.

Don't your remember a few post saying they were coming from the futur ? Now they have to wait for their past technology wich will be in the futur to fully optimize the game.

Jesus i always tought it was pretty obvious ! ;)

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Rexeos a écrit :

Imo problem is not with CPU or GPU, but with motherboard wires and chipset and speed of ram modules etc.

You are digging way too deep.
Let's just shake hands on the sheer fact that PoE's netcode and game optimization are the actual problem.
Further, we can blame on the imperfect electronic technologies.

But the difference between technologies and PoE performance is that the former tend to constantly improve over time.

One reason I'll never again run poet's pen

or buy a skill MTX

or play in a party

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webas a écrit :

Try 144Hz monitor..rent...find someone who can show you gameplay in real on nice monitor and beast vga..

I run a 165hz G-Sync monitor and a 1080ti. I think you're speaking to the wrong dude. But you do need to realize that a video game has to cater to a variety GPU's. We're not talking about a couple here. We're talking A LOT of cards. You also need to think about prices. A 1070ti/1080/1080ti isn't for everyone, and games need to appeal to more than the "richest" part of the world.

I LOVE my FPS. I like it high. Especially in games where you need a high refresh rate to be competitive. There are WAY bigger differences between 60hz and 165hz in competitive FPS games than it is in PoE. There are more important things to attend to in PoE than the FPS not hitting max.

First of all, you don't have the best gaming rig. I'm running an 8700k @ 5ghz, 32gb RAM @3200, 2x 1080ti's in SLI, and a fast fucking SSD. My rig isn't the best. There are ALWAYS better. The title of this thread irks me a bit.

Second of all, I run the game without functional drops in FPS in single GPU mode. I've tested it. I never drop below 60FPS @4k on a single 1080ti. Now, you're going to talk to me about how much better 144hz is than 60hz, but I'm going to stop you and tell you: it's subjective bullshit. I previously ran 3x 27"s @1440p @ 144hz, and I'm now running a single 43" 4k at 60hz. I prefer the size and resolution to the FPS boost. I've tried 'em both. I could say resolution is superior all day long, but I'd be wrong, too. It's subjective bullshit. Just remember that when you think you can't live without 144hz maxed 24/7.

Third, PoE runs well on a variety of systems. There is a lot going on for any given moment, and the graphics and effects are continually updated, so it's not as if they released a game 5 years ago that we still can't run right. It's an evolution.

Now, all that being said, I'm sorry you're having FPS troubles. That sucks, and with a 1080ti, I would want better, too. I understand. But perhaps you've just got to adjust your expectations.

Meanwhile my computer will run PoE just fine.

i5-6500
16gb 2133 ram
gtx1060 3gb

playing in 1080p and will always get over 100 fps in 90% of the game, if too much is going on, it drops to like 85.

Sometimes though, my graphics card will ram fan speed to 100% and sound like a jet taking off. Vsync will help with this, but wll cap me at 60 fps, which is fine by me and still buttery smooth.

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webas a écrit :

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Phrazz a écrit :

I'm not defending PoE's optimization here, but the hunt for 100+(+++) FPS belongs in a PvP (Shooter/MOBA) Game forums.

I think a lot of the FPS drop comes from the huge amount of calculation being done when there's a lot of mobs on the screen. The dices get rolled several thousand times each pack.

No you hairy caveman.. Do you realise how many years gaming industry thinks 60fps/60Hz is the standard?

Its too old, and its very backwards design to be happy with 60fps or Hz.. Thank God monitor industry doesnt care about it, because of that you get new technology invented.

Try 144Hz monitor..rent...find someone who can show you gameplay in real on nice monitor and beast vga..

tl;dr we need to ask for that instead of defending old tech that should be forgotten long time ago.

uh, overall 30fps is still standard. 60fps is ideal, above that is a luxury. not to mention at a certain point you literally cannot see the difference (as opposed to ppl who claim they can see the difference but really can't at "lowerthanimpossibletosee" FPS).

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Asmosis a écrit :

uh, overall 30fps is still standard. 60fps is ideal, above that is a luxury. not to mention at a certain point you literally cannot see the difference (as opposed to ppl who claim they can see the difference but really can't at "lowerthanimpossibletosee" FPS).

Pretty much this. I always see people claiming that 120 fps makes such a huge difference over 60, but it seems like complete bullshit every time. The movies you watch are mostly at 24fps. A subset of high-end movies often go into 48fps. No movies go beyond that.

I was skeptical of HD stuff when that was first coming out. But then I saw the difference. It was tangible. UHD was less tangible but I can still tell there is a higher definition when I actually look at the details.

I have been shown 30 fps vs 60fps vs 120 fps side-by-side. The difference between 30 and 60 is already like the difference between hd and uhd. The difference between 60 and 120 was nothing.

I took a dozen of my friends that claimed to care, to test 60 vs 120 fps media, back in high school. Swapped around which was which to see if they could tell. One of them seemed to notice an actual difference and was right about which was which 80% of the time (so, still not 100). The others were around 50/50, a couple of them actually mistook the 60fps video as 120fps *more* often (I guess it felt smoother to them??).

So what I'm saying is, if someone says they need games at 120fps, there's a 90% chance they're full of shit, even if they do regularly play games at 120fps.

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magicstop a écrit :

First of all, you don't have the best gaming rig. I'm running an 8700k @ 5ghz, 32gb RAM @3200, 2x 1080ti's in SLI, and a fast fucking SSD. My rig isn't the best. There are ALWAYS better. The title of this thread irks me a bit.

Second of all, I run the game without functional drops in FPS in single GPU mode. I've tested it. I never drop below 60FPS @4k on a single 1080ti. Now, you're going to talk to me about how much better 144hz is than 60hz, but I'm going to stop you and tell you: it's subjective bullshit. I previously ran 3x 27"s @1440p @ 144hz, and I'm now running a single 43" 4k at 60hz. I prefer the size and resolution to the FPS boost. I've tried 'em both. I could say resolution is superior all day long, but I'd be wrong, too. It's subjective bullshit. Just remember that when you think you can't live without 144hz maxed 24/7.

Third, PoE runs well on a variety of systems. There is a lot going on for any given moment, and the graphics and effects are continually updated, so it's not as if they released a game 5 years ago that we still can't run right. It's an evolution.

Now, all that being said, I'm sorry you're having FPS troubles. That sucks, and with a 1080ti, I would want better, too. I understand. But perhaps you've just got to adjust your expectations.

First of all, the CPU is not the bottleneck , it never goes past 60% load even at 4.8 ghz so the extra .2 ghz does nothing, second of all the extra 16 gb ram at 3200 does not actually improve fps by any noticeable amount if any, finaly the notion that I would need a SECOND 1080ti in SL in order to max out poe is absurd. So yes, I could drop money on another 1080ti for maybe a tiny frame gain but I seriously doubt its going to be enough to keep 120 frame minimum. So while I could certainly change 'best' to 'ultra mega high end but not exactly the best because I could of dropped money on a second 1080ti in SL but that's mostly silly' but I don't see the point.

As for 4k 60 fps vs 1440p 120 fps, I would take the latter any day but that is not what this thread is about.

There is no reason my rig, relatively as good as you can get without trying to use gimpy SLI setups that dont work in half of games should not be able to 1440p 120 fps min poe.

This is plea for GGG to make incremental improvements to the engine which include:
-Allowing us to turn down or cap the number of visual effects that occur in a single frame
-Allowing us to turn off gore effects from items like belly
-Additional optimization to multi unit shatters and herald of ice procs
-Apply the graphical optimizations used in delves to certain often played end game maps
-Apply graphical optimizations to certain particularly taxing skills like ice shot and kinetic blast and molten strike

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Meanwhile my computer will run PoE just fine.

i5-6500
16gb 2133 ram
gtx1060 3gb

playing in 1080p and will always get over 100 fps in 90% of the game, if too much is going on, it drops to like 85.

Sometimes though, my graphics card will ram fan speed to 100% and sound like a jet taking off. Vsync will help with this, but wll cap me at 60 fps, which is fine by me and still buttery smooth.

The thing with poe benchmarks is that is totally reliant on the build and content you play. Playing poe as a sunder champion in mid tier maps is going to be a lot less taxing on your rig than a bow raider with HH in T16 maps with quad sextants high pack size blood lines shooting into an abyss/harbinger/breach/beyond.

With that said, what build you play and at what tier? Here's an example of gameplay for me personally - Does your gaming experience look similar? :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgI3DoIVZE

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Pretty much this. I always see people claiming that 120 fps makes such a huge difference over 60, but it seems like complete bullshit every time. The movies you watch are mostly at 24fps. A subset of high-end movies often go into 48fps. No movies go beyond that.

I was skeptical of HD stuff when that was first coming out. But then I saw the difference. It was tangible. UHD was less tangible but I can still tell there is a higher definition when I actually look at the details.

I have been shown 30 fps vs 60fps vs 120 fps side-by-side. The difference between 30 and 60 is already like the difference between hd and uhd. The difference between 60 and 120 was nothing.

I took a dozen of my friends that claimed to care, to test 60 vs 120 fps media, back in high school. Swapped around which was which to see if they could tell. One of them seemed to notice an actual difference and was right about which was which 80% of the time (so, still not 100). The others were around 50/50, a couple of them actually mistook the 60fps video as 120fps *more* often (I guess it felt smoother to them??).

So what I'm saying is, if someone says they need games at 120fps, there's a 90% chance they're full of shit, even if they do regularly play games at 120fps.

You have been shown but have you actually sat down to play a few sessions of poe at true 120 fps vs 60? It is not like going from 30 to 60 at first but once your eyes adjust to 100+ fps play going back to 60 fps will feel as awful as going from 60 to 30.

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CAPSLOCK_ON a écrit :

ur pc would be high end in like 2005 looool it's not PoEs fault ur pc sucks

Possibly the dumbest comment I've read in a long time.