The 4 stash tab that free to players get is just not enough anymore.

This is making me laugh so hard. Ok guys, everyone who makes argument like:

YO! AM POOR GIMME SUFF!

is just plain stupid and clearly doesnt know how the world work. Sounds very much like radical left wing voters lol.

Now im adressing all those guys who are "bragging" how poor they are and how they cannot spend a dime on a stashtab. Guys you're saying that u have two or three jobs and have to pay the bills and stuff, thats sad and I feel for u however.. Did GGG involve itself in your life so u ended up in this position? I don't think so. Then why do you think that in some magical way you have the right to use that as an argument? People have different problems and guess what, who cares? If this was B2P game you wouldnt be able to even play this game in the first place.

If someone went to my shop asking "Yo am poor gimme stuff!" I would just kick his butt across the ocean. Unless someone is going to make a point not based on this ridiculous notion that being poor equals getting free stuff ill be against giving any additional tabs.

And now to OP, assuming base cost of $5 and you playing this game for for 5 years (lol), if u saved like 0,27 penny a day (not even a freaking one its like a penny every 3 days) you'd get this tab by now. You see how ridiculous this sounds?

We are not talking about $60 purchase for gods sake. Yes you guys are cheap af and think about if gaming is really that thing what you should be doing in these shreds of free time that u have inbetween your numerous jobs.

PS: Im still waiting for any sane argument why GGG should give away tabs for free.

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JoeShmo a écrit :

If you can earn 1 ex an hour ...you're entitled to a head hunter in 45 hours ..far less than 100. That's the point of conjecture in the conversation ..and why calling someone "entitled" for a hundred hours of work is nonsense; especially in a game where RNG plays a big factor in most of one's wealth, like having doctor cards drop for you or finding items that you can sell for several Ex at a time.

That's not how the word "entitled" is usually applied in this context. When we call someone "entitled" it means they think they deserve to get a particular item or feature without going through the normal process of acquiring it. In subscription-based MMORPGs it usually takes the form of "I pay for this game monthly so I should get X". Sometimes it's also "I played in beta so I should get X". In free-to-play games a common argument is also "I'm really poor so I should get X".

If you can farm up 45-50 ex then you can afford to buy a Headhunter from another player, assuming prices stay at current levels. However it does not entitle you to a Headhunter. If at some point in the future a Headhunter costs 70 ex, you can't demand to have one for 45 ex because it cost that much in the past.

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JoeShmo a écrit :

I didn't make an argument that we shouldn't have rare items, or that you should be able to have everything you want whenever it's convenient for you. The point was that calling someone out for literally 100 hours worth of work is amazing to me, as if 100 hours of work is worth nothing.

We are calling him out because he thinks he should get a Headhunter for much less effort than it normally takes to afford one. If someone flips burgers in a Burger King for five years, that does not entitle them to a Lamborghini even if the CEO of Burger King can buy three Lamborghinis in the same period. It's not saying that five years of working is nothing, it's saying that Lamborghinis are kinda expensive and that person should get a more basic car.

This game has a fairly functional market compared to most (perhaps second to only EVE Online), and like all markets it is governed by the laws of supply and demand. At the moment those laws say that a Headhunter is worth at least 45 ex so if you want one, you should buckle up and earn the currency for it.

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JoeShmo a écrit :

Regardless of that, what bothers me the most is that you seem to forget ( or never knew ) how hard it was to trade for items when all you had was "trade chat". I don't see how anyone could make a respectable argument that you can achieve the same level of trading ( not talking convenience ) using trade chat as someone who just uses a premium tab; let alone the affect it has on your non-trading gameplay time. It's pretty much universally agreed on that trade chat was the worst kind of cancer you could deal with in this game, and we would never want to go back to that ever. Ever.

Why would you limit yourself to trade chat though, even without a premium tab? Both poe.trade and the official trade site also index forum shops in addition to premium tabs. There are programs like Acquisition which can help in creating a correctly formatted forum post, but you can also write one up manually. Your items will then show up in searches on the trade sites and other players can whisper you about them just as easily as if you were using a premium tab.

P2W... if one person has 200 tabs, and another has 4 tabs - the second person will be forced to free up space by selling cheap. The first person can buy it and store in his 200 tabs and sell it for double the purchase price.
All because he has got space and can wait for days to sell the item.
P2W.

sorry to be so hard honest, but your argument is BS.
Means not best said.

If you want to have trade as much as a player who paid 20 to 40 dollars and not as you make as imagine thousands, then he needs to pay as much as the other did.
But if someone is not willing to pay at all for stash, it is his self made torture to think he can do as much trade as the other player.
You can trade even without extra stash tabs, you can grind currency and play ALL content with a lot of time. But it is no pay to win to support my game´s devs and company as a thank you for having all this in last years.
Not to give anything, but demanding everything, get older!
Life is not a christmay day all year.

With other custom outfit by mtx you get no advantage.
But with 4 tabs you can play the game and maybe if you like it, why not supporting this great company.
Just to compare and not to trigger a discussion I paid 60€ for the game, paid another 85€ for premium addon and later paid again 15€ for another character (not more) and in the end, what did I get? No support by new content, nothing new at all for nearly a year and a game that sux.

So I love GGG and Chris team to give me PoE and even without to pay for it.
Then it is just okay to give some payback and support it, while I get something for it.

Sorry but not to have 20 dollars for several years is not poor it is even much worse.

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LowBudget780 a écrit :

Ok, for one, I didn't bring up this topic to begin with. All I said was that you can easily experience all of the content this game has to offer without spending a dime and the guy jumps straight to a rant about being on dialysis in a third world country. Seemed kind of weird, then he posts pics which is even more fucked up and inappropriate. But yeah he proved he wasn't lying so whatever.

I will say this is the most awkward conversation I've ever had on a video game message board so there's that at least.

Actually you did bring this all up. Can I quote you?

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You played for 2-3 months before spending any money on the game? Yeah, you kind of just proved my point :)

is it your words? Like you know everything why someone had to wait 2-3 months before spending money on PoE. Like you are mister Know-All? What is then 'your point'? Can you elaborate on that? You didn't even answer and you know why? Because you don't have any answer. Don't behave like you didn't bring it all up. People are diffrent with many many verious situations in their lives. The only reason I posted those images is to teach you to be more tolerant and before you ever write 'youare a liar' just think for a second that what someone said might be true. I agree people can lie and they do that constantly but when you know they didn't lie it is time to say 'sorry i was wrong' which you seem don't have the balls to do.
Again I said yes it is possible to do all the content with only 4 free tabs if you know what items to keep and what should be discarded which a new player might not know.

Since when has free to play ever meant "Experience every possible facet of an expensive to run game for free such to the point that paying confers nothing whatsoever."

Free to play means you can try what you are offered for free out of goodwill.

GGG Has employees to pay, hardware to maintain and bills to deal with.

The very fact that you get such a fleshed out game, with the option to pay being entirely your onus is amazing as it is.

That and besides;

You bought a PC that can run poe, you pay for your internet bill each month, you probably spend money on other luxuries in your life.

$20 is enough to buy core special tabs along with a premium upgrade and some normal and be forever set for trading. If you cant save up $20 to support a game you have probably milked hundreds of hours out of then you can sit with your 4 stash tabs and whine for all I care.

Is 4 tabs enough to play the game seriously? Hell no.

Should you be supporting a game if you are playing seriously? Hell yes.


Yeah i'm being an asshole, I get that. But you need to fully understand why you wont get more free tabs, because its never going to happen. GGG employees have families to feed just like you and me, and that's a paid model i'm always happy to support.

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Gannicus2491 a écrit :

With other custom outfit by mtx you get no advantage.
But with 4 tabs you can play the game and maybe if you like it, why not supporting this great company.

So what you are saying is extra stash tabs are pay to win since you get an advantage over the people who play on the 4 basic tabs.

As for supporting ggg: you do you dod. Some of us still remember when ggg had an ounce of dignity left.

That was long ago. Back when Chris denied holding more than 1 monthly sale because their bussiness model did not rely on milking naive exiles like you. Now you can go and buy the 5 reskins of the same armour set , portal or weapon effect.

As for the 4 tabs. I've done better on 4 tabs than people who actually maintain a shop on 20 premiums. I really don't care if ggg will ever concede and give new players a free premium tab.

Actually I think the first blood pack should be pushed more than league supporter pack mtx.

Also save money for the delve fragments tab coming out with the league.

Why is this TROLL thread so big ....

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shadopaw a écrit :

Why is this TROLL thread so big ....

cause its not trolling

ggg shills itt