The 4 stash tab that free to players get is just not enough anymore.

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lagwin1980 a écrit :

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9b368w/ssf_nobank_a_stashless_run_from_zero_to_uber/

Clearly stash tabs are OP and need to be nerfed. :D

To be fair, buying stash tabs does make it a bit P2W (in a way), but if you really enjoy the game you might as well spend a bit on it. I think GGG completely deserves the money for providing such a great game and having an amazing support, and if you’re only playing temporary leagues for example, $15 worth of tabs is more than enough.

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Hallsttattian a écrit :

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Gannicus2491 a écrit :

With other custom outfit by mtx you get no advantage.
But with 4 tabs you can play the game and maybe if you like it, why not supporting this great company.

So what you are saying is extra stash tabs are pay to win since you get an advantage over the people who play on the 4 basic tabs.

As for supporting ggg: you do you dod. Some of us still remember when ggg had an ounce of dignity left.

That was long ago. Back when Chris denied holding more than 1 monthly sale because their bussiness model did not rely on milking naive exiles like you. Now you can go and buy the 5 reskins of the same armour set , portal or weapon effect.

As for the 4 tabs. I've done better on 4 tabs than people who actually maintain a shop on 20 premiums. I really don't care if ggg will ever concede and give new players a free premium tab.

Actually I think the first blood pack should be pushed more than league supporter pack mtx.

Also save money for the delve fragments tab coming out with the league.

Maybe you should have a good look at yourself. I think GGG is as ethical as being a business allows them to be. Freelooading on a game for years and still have the audacity to complain though, now there is a discussion for dignity right there.

Most other ARPGs (in fact all that I can think of) use the buy-to-play business model. Maybe PoE should do that too? You'd have to pay $20 before you can play the game at all. Perhaps you'd get ten stash tabs with that purchase. And perhaps there wouldn't be any microtransations at all so you could never get more (like all the other ARPGs). Would that make you happy?

I would actually rather see a bigger inventory, ( character inventory while out adventuring), or some sort of "bags" system in, like most mmos do. But selling bigger inventories really WOULD venture into Pay-To-Win territory, regardless of whether I would like it.

'fre-to-play' does never mean 'unlimited' access for free. And POE does a very good job here with its model: you basically indeed have no restriction 'directly' through the amount of storage space.

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databeaver a écrit :

You'd have to pay $20 before you can play the game at all.

I think this would not be a good change, in many ways. People who use it as a free 'tryout' (aka 'before you buy') will very likely skip it at all; while some/many of them may get addicted to stay and spend money then. Others who already play, but prefer solo, could use the change to demand louder for an offline version... In general it IMHO would be difficult to handle all existing players - cut out all who spent less than the new price?? I think the 'first blood pack' is the better equivalent to a fixed-price-to play. It could be more advertised as suggestion, probably.

For the 'advantage' vs 'pay2win' discussion: you can't win anything non-virtual (of you do something 'wrong' according to the TOS). And even with really equaled conditions (stash-wise) the very most of us will never 'win' a rush against the top players. There's a LOT more involved than just to have space.

In general, its indeed a hard comparison from the early days to all the stuff we loot now... while things like maps, divination cards and essences aren't so mandatory in the beginning. I still think about a 'good' suggestion for a combined tab that holds limited capacity of currency, divinations, essences and (maybe 1...some) trade slot - with restrictions that respects the 'needs' of GGG to be generic tab 0 (for free) while still be useful enough. Additional 'issue' would be a solution to upgrade it to one of the regular/special premium tabs.

Should make it 6 by default.

Theres like 30 new currency items! weeeee

yay more pain for me