Why Im quiting PoE until SSF gets better drops

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RogueMage a écrit :


I'm a long-term casual player much like yourself. What you're complaining about is real, and the elitist endgame mentality that produced it is not going to change. You can either quit, jump on the DPS-uber-alles bandwagon, or forge your own contrarian path.

If you examine my stable of level 85+ Standard characters, you'll find a variety of original melee builds using a broad assortment of build-enabling Uniques. Some are Legacy, some cost as much as 8 Exalts, but virtually all of them were acquired through trading. The only Tier-1 Uniques that have dropped for me were Soul Taker and Belly of the Beast. The commonly available Uniques came mostly from my Guild's stash. The rest came from grinding yellow and low-level red maps.

My builds all have around 4.5-5K HP, though one is a hybrid with 2.5K ES. None have more than about 50K tooltip DPS, most less than 20K. They all routinely solo level 12+ maps, but Chiseled & Alc'ed yellow maps yield faster XP and gobs of loot. None of my builds have ever seen Uber Izaro, Atziri, the Council, the Guardians, or the Shaper. While those battles are no doubt exciting, they're IMO stat-inflated pseudo-PvP cage fights spoiled by cheesy one-shot gimmicks and OP boss immunities. I'd much rather tank the hordes with underpowered but tough and versatile brawlers that rely on tactical skill to survive, rather than faceroll the game with crackhead clearspeed exploits. When you lack that kind of firepower, a robust defensive strategy requires just about every damage mitigation trick you can pack into a build.

But that's just me and my reactionary anti-Meta obstinance. If your game is all about those Tier-1 trophies and endgame bosses, I'm afraid SSF is just not meant for you.



You are right. I would try SSF and forge my contrarian path. My interest on end game is more about living the experience and playing in these areas. trading is not really my objective.

Im not so casual, but I taked a break from playing PoE some times. Damage mitigation is essential but these one shots are really persistent
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Trylobyte a écrit :
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RogueMage a écrit :
But that's just me and my reactionary anti-Meta obstinance. If your game is all about those Tier-1 trophies and endgame bosses, I'm afraid SSF is just not meant for you.

Thank you for this. If you want to play something that's suboptimal, that's entirely fine. Nobody's going to fault you for playing what you enjoy, even if you can't do the late-game craziness because if we're being fair the late-game does get pretty cheap and not every build will be able to hack it since what counts as a one-shot largely comes down to how much EHP and reduction you have. I love my Doomfletch archer but she's so incredibly fragile that even yellow mobs have a chance of one-shotting her if I'm not careful.

That said, if you do want to play something that is not optimized for the current gameplay, and you do like playing something that can't handle the endgame, and you know that, don't complain about it. That's why the OP is getting so much flak, I think - He's playing in a very suboptimal way, refuses to admit to it, and is complaining that he can't do things like the optimized players do. He's claiming the problem is everything except his own gameplay when that is, by evidence presented, the biggest problem.


There is no evidence since you can play how many hours you want with yours chars. I can create a marauder and play with it for years so, whats the importance of how many hours have I played with this marauder? None.

You guys, you just say that is my fault and bla bla bla but ALL of you do the same as I, get one shot killed, complain about garbage uniques and expensive prices. You guys just dont have the balls to post all this on the forum, then come here to say "NAH! HE DID THIS WRONG!!"

Let me ask you: did you complete uber lab solo? with how many chars? and atziri? See?


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You guys just dont have the balls to post all this on the forum, then come here to say "NAH! HE DID THIS WRONG!!"


What, post impotent rage at game mechanics? Plenty of people can do that. And plenty of others stop and think before they touch their keyboards.
"We're pilgrims in an unholy land."
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CrisFenix a écrit :
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Trylobyte a écrit :
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RogueMage a écrit :
But that's just me and my reactionary anti-Meta obstinance. If your game is all about those Tier-1 trophies and endgame bosses, I'm afraid SSF is just not meant for you.

Thank you for this. If you want to play something that's suboptimal, that's entirely fine. Nobody's going to fault you for playing what you enjoy, even if you can't do the late-game craziness because if we're being fair the late-game does get pretty cheap and not every build will be able to hack it since what counts as a one-shot largely comes down to how much EHP and reduction you have. I love my Doomfletch archer but she's so incredibly fragile that even yellow mobs have a chance of one-shotting her if I'm not careful.

That said, if you do want to play something that is not optimized for the current gameplay, and you do like playing something that can't handle the endgame, and you know that, don't complain about it. That's why the OP is getting so much flak, I think - He's playing in a very suboptimal way, refuses to admit to it, and is complaining that he can't do things like the optimized players do. He's claiming the problem is everything except his own gameplay when that is, by evidence presented, the biggest problem.


There is no evidence since you can play how many hours you want with yours chars. I can create a marauder and play with it for years so, whats the importance of how many hours have I played with this marauder? None.

You guys, you just say that is my fault and bla bla bla but ALL of you do the same as I, get one shot killed, complain about garbage uniques and expensive prices. You guys just dont have the balls to post all this on the forum, then come here to say "NAH! HE DID THIS WRONG!!"

Let me ask you: did you complete uber lab solo? with how many chars? and atziri? See?




yes i do uber lab solo ALWAYS the only time i EVER partied was for master daylies and for trading every know and than. games like PoE just arent fun for me in groups since it always ends up in 1 person running ahead and 1 shoting the whole screen while the others try to catch up and looting. (for rnd parties atleast)
Grouping just sets the game on easy mode since bosses dont target you so you dont even have to dodge most of the time.
The best thing abput the SSF is,that it keeps me from grouping for those 2 things and i love it thtat way.
I would show you the uber lab kill in this league with the SSF tag but i cant since i´still looking for the 6th trial (got over 40 offerings though ...)

ps: i love running normal atziri,shes a well designed FAIR bossfight and can be done easyly if you prepare right ( anit bleed + fire/lightning flask )but ofc i only got tehre with "garbage drops and trading" oh wait its SSF

yes i do uber lab solo ALWAYS the only time i EVER partied was for master daylies and for trading every know and than. games like PoE just arent fun for me in groups since it always ends up in 1 person running ahead and 1 shoting the whole screen while the others try to catch up and looting. (for rnd parties atleast)
Grouping just sets the game on easy mode since bosses dont target you so you dont even have to dodge most of the time.
The best thing abput the SSF is,that it keeps me from grouping for those 2 things and i love it thtat way.
I would show you the uber lab kill in this league with the SSF tag but i cant since i´still looking for the 6th trial (got over 40 offerings though ...)

ps: i love running normal atziri,shes a well designed FAIR bossfight and can be done easyly if you prepare right ( anit bleed + fire/lightning flask )but ofc i only got tehre with "garbage drops and trading" oh wait its SSF[/quote]


You are not Trylobyte so whats the deal?
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CrisFenix a écrit :

You guys, you just say that is my fault and bla bla bla but ALL of you do the same as I, get one shot killed, complain about garbage uniques and expensive prices. You guys just dont have the balls to post all this on the forum, then come here to say "NAH! HE DID THIS WRONG!!"

Let me ask you: did you complete uber lab solo? with how many chars? and atziri? See?


No, we don't. We get our characters to high levels and get currency to gear our characters. There are things that are wrong with the game (example: Volatiles), but things you are mentioning are not.

I completed the Lab with every single character I've made after Lab was introduced (I didn't bother with Standard characters too much). Including Summon Skeletons.
I killed Atziri on most recent characters I've made (last ~7 ones, I think). I FARMED Atziri with Summon Skeletons, with this:



in my hands. So, what do have to see here? How many more times will we have to prove you that YOU are the one who is bad at the game, and instead of insisting that there is something wrong with the game, simply learn from your mistakes?

By the way, I've got an update for you. I've played some of my level 82 character - now she is level 86. I've overshot the hours, too. :P I played ~20 hours on her. So yeah, level 86, a little over 20 hours, compared to your 4 character of level 80 and 1000 hours. Some gear for you to look at, too!

Gear


Ps. LEARN TO QUOTE. PLEASE. This is painful to read - I don't know if it is you saying this stuff or other people.
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
Dernière édition par Perq#4049, le 17 mars 2017 à 02:26:59
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CrisFenix a écrit :


You guys, you just say that is my fault and bla bla bla but ALL of you do the same as I, get one shot killed, complain about garbage uniques and expensive prices. You guys just dont have the balls to post all this on the forum, then come here to say "NAH! HE DID THIS WRONG!!"

the fuck ?
did anyone tell you that your logic is absurd ?

not only do you not understand the game mechanics well (things like evasion or strength's effect on armour), you also apply absolutely heinous logic.

"I like to run around with my dick flapping around my ankles, and ALL of you do the same as I, but none of you have the balls to post on the forum.
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lol at having balls to whine on the internet, you have it backwards bruh. it takes balls to admit it's you and not the game. giant vaginas cry all the time

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Let me ask you: did you complete uber lab solo? with how many chars? and atziri? See?


uber izaro and atziri are nearly trivial solo on tons of builds at this point in the game's life. uber izaro in particular is a trivial fight if you dont buff him and he doesnt have dual swords.

on ANY build, with a lvl 20 enfeeble, a basalt, a granite, enduring cry (+optional fortify) and 4k hit point pool, uber izaro is beatable. all those things (besides fortify) are usable by literally any build in the game
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Perq a écrit :

Ps. LEARN TO QUOTE. PLEASE. This is painful to read - I don't know if it is you saying this stuff or other people.


I quote the way I want, UNDERSTOOD?

Go farm your F garbage uniques and get one shoted please!




OP confirmed to be a troll. I think it is safe to close this thread now. V:
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
is there a point posting in this thread when you jump on everybody with hate speech if they don't agree with you or point to your inability to quote?
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