PoE not casual friendly enough
" I still don't think that there should be recommended starter builds provided in game, like I said earlier, there should just be a general "this character has an easy to stacking these offensive stats and these defensive stats." and make some mention that the player is not bound by those stats but can choose whatever, although alternatives are more complicated for first time throughs not understanding the mechanics. "It's all clearer now
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" TL;DR It's too fricken casual friendly; invest some time, and stop looking for MORE handouts. |
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" WTF are you tlaking about, in your 1st setence you want to remove what RPG is about. "Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy? There is no such thing, and never has been. And the reason
is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms." |
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" Oh Im sorry it was obvious that I did not mention : in game Obviously. Having for any information (not just some, everything) to refer to a wiki that is not even GGG's responsibility is not great for the game. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 21 août 2016 à 13:16:31
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" Agree 100% with this. Not making things transparent and clear IN-GAME because of the existence of a wiki is just lazy, imo. Wikis should be available for players who want to dig deeper. Explanations of all basic mechanics should already be available to everyone without clicking alt+tab. This isn't a question of handouts or catering to noobs, it's a question of basic useability. GGG has improved on this somewhat over the past couple years, but they still have pretty far to go. Wash your hands, Exile!
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I admit I am not reading this thread BUT the one way in which this game spanks new players is the total lack of information in-game. It badly needs more. A built in wiki like Total War, a glossary, anything.
A player should never be forced out of their game to figure out how the game works. "Danger is like jello, there's always room for more."
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The OP is correct.
And the players opposing this notion are not doing the game as a whole any favors. Take note that the OP is not asking for the game to become a casual fest, what he wants is a way for casual players to be drawn into the game and it's complexity gradually over time. We all started out being casuals somewhere and our love for gaming made it so we became interested and expanded our knowledge about it. In PoE this means taking regular visits to outside sources in the hopes the data collected there is legit and trustworthy. Or alternatively, experiment ourselves to figure out what we wanted to know. I see no fundamental issue's with a "casual starting mode" that provides rough outlines of a basic character and gives "tips and tricks". It would give newer players a basis from which to grow and once they attained the "casual mode" knowledge, they could decide for themselves if they really wanna invest into PoE on a more deeper level. One issue that arises from this, is the fact PoE is quite rapidly evolving over time. This would mean that the "casual starting mode" would need to be updated on a 6 month basis most likely, which could eat a lot of resources that are spend on other things. So while i understand the OP and there is certainly merit to the notion of easing newer players into the complexity that is PoE, the investment might simply be to large to undertake, since it would be impossible to implement a "casual starting mode" and then neglect it.(since this would lead to an averse effect) Peace, -Boem- edit : typo Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes Dernière édition par Boem#2861, le 22 août 2016 à 07:49:15
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" You read that he wanted pre selected passive right ? That is too hand holding imho. OR We could have a tutorial mode ( let's say something that only lasts 10 or 15 levels in areas unrelated to the story line ... 15 passive points skill tree, with pre selected passive or tips when you select one). But no pre selected passive on the current skill tree, please no. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Game should be more transparent for new players, I agree. Maybe support gems' names should be changed into something like "melee damage on full life support that interacts with an appropriate active gem, after you insert it into an accordingly colored socket of a gear piece that is linked with the socket of said active gem". Way better!
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PoE is so complicated that it's really hard to feed a new player with all the important must-know required for a successful easy-mode startup. So there'll be reading of external sources anyway.
GGG actually put efforts with all those ingame tips and it works, no matter they can't cover the whole depth of this game and the knowledge required. Nor have to. Eventually a some kind of an ingame wiki section with explanation of the very basics could be helpful - the most important mechanics, defenses, damage types, basic crafting tips, misc, etc. Just the basics. According to the lack of intro, yeah, it's a shame. There should be something, even not the best, even cheap, doesn't matter. Anything. Cut scenes are somehow a luxury, but the missing intro is highly unprofessional. An unpretentious intro is something they can easily afford. In GD the first thing developers did straight at the official release was to add an intro. Cheap, not much impressive, but there. As its presence brings the first and most important impression about the game a newbie gets. The story line in pictures. A tool to hook you from the start. This is a buff © 2016
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