Elementalist sucks. Never pick over assassin.

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Crackmonster a écrit :

You could also say your last post is just air - you don't play serious so you your opinion as most often times is rooted in something much closer to what seems funny or styleful under the best circumstances rather than what in reality is worthwhile and functions to the best ability.

God *damn* your English is weird. Anyway, that's just flat-out insulting. I always play seriously. I don't see a point to playing a game like PoE if you're not going to respect the challenge and take it seriously. You're equating 'map running' with 'serious' and honestly, I've seen enough videos of one-click bullshit map clearing based pretty much on cookie cutter builds and aggressive trading to know that there is NO clear correlation between the two. Conversely, when you say I'm not serious because I don't exclusively play end-game, you're basically saying people who don't rush for maps (and try to remember the percentage of characters that even make it to a map: roughly 1%) are not playing seriously, i.e. are being silly or not-serious.

And that's completely out of line.

I don't think much of you and I don't hide this fact. But I would never denigrate how you choose to play nor would I declare it silly or serious because frankly, that's your call. Nor would I say 'your input is worthless because you don't play the way I do'. Again, very insulting.

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Emphasy a écrit :

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Just to round it up for those like charan and this other dude who are actually the ones missing the point. The point is that the pure blasting caster of the witch archetype isn't there in the same form, although elemental overload does help out a damn lot in that regard - there isn't a single of those witch classes that feel straightforward caster, they are all something niche and needs special creation rather than being generic casters.

Well the Occultist clearly is. It offers the most important thing for a caster, a strong defense. It also offers a power charge, and PCoC. And I feel witch casters aren't necessarily crit casters, and with the curse part of the occultist this is enabled perfectly, since you get a lot of damage multipliers from your curses and Elemental Overload. And to be fair I don't feel the Assassin all that strong. Having 95% crit chance is nice, however the only thing it does is widen up the skill choice you have, since the spells with higher crit chance (mostly some of the fire and ice skills) already reached high numbers and the amount of Crit Mult you get is not that high. With 7 power charges Assassin gave me 60% increase in damage. Which is cool... but considering that this is all you get (all the other points are kinda meah, the 10% PC on non-crit are a complete waste and the 5th point is actually better than the 6th. So the Assassin has only one node that has any meaningful impact.

And when we think about those Charges, we also have to consider that the Assassin has no way of generating them. Curses again are on kill, which you are so against, same with Power Syphon. So there is only PCoC and Volls. I do use the later, and in this case Assassin is a natural choice. But for other builds you sacrifice these benefits for a Support-Gem and any meaningful defense. Going Occultist with the ES and PCoC path you get both.

The only thing that really benefits the Assassin is how great it works for CoC and Physical Spells. And Bladefall is still fairly potent, and CoC anyway. For true casters, there are other potent options, but there are many, while crit basically have one strong option and that is the assassin. There are a lot of Inquisitors, Elementalists or Occultists and even Necromancers that cast spells.

I doubt that a lot of those Assassins are actually casters. Assassin is just too good for non-casters to make all those assassins spellcasters. And if they aren't there is a mostly fair balance between Occultist, Elementalist and Assassin. However they are entirely different in their roles. Elementalist and Occultist (as well as even the Necromancer) have strong options for non-crit spell casting, which is something the assassin does not have. Their crit parts are lackluster though. Which means that whenever going crit is the best choice, Elementalist and Occultist will suffer, due to them being more focussed around non-crit builds.

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RestInPieces a écrit :

Ofc elementalist sucks. I was saying it before it come out all the time but some people were like "let's test him first don't be hasty".

Most of his skills are useless on bosses or useless niche WS and DC bonuses. The thresholds of elements are a joke after the nerfs anyway. Can't proc elemental status on bosses no matter how much you have invested in durations or crit. You can only proc them on trash mobs which are dying in a couple hits anyway.