Dissapointed 44 years old player

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All cool and interesting, useful, uniques drop from pinnacle content at droprates of 1 in 200 or stuff like 1 in 80, almost no one will ever see them in a reasonable time. Crafting mats become rarer and rarer and item drops are garbage.

Do I play an rpg for a class fantasy or is this a job simulator? I juice endgame to farm currency to buy what I need, I farm some niche content endlessly the rich people do not want to farm and I sell crafting bases because attempting to craft is expensive because for some reason we really need 50 currencies, omens and essences to "combo" resources to craft. How about I just choose what I want, fill up a meter and call it good? Lock the tier 1 and maybe 2 affixes to drop only. Itemdrops on the ground don't matter at all, you never get anything useful. Only once did I find a good drop (full t1 ES rare, extremely strong) in all my time of playing.

Loot is so incredibly unrewarding in this game and all you can do as such is trade because items are balanced around trade, ergo all I can do is farm currency to buy stuff since attempting to craft without treating the game as a job is simply not feasible in a realistic time frame.

This game needs some kind of SSF mode like last epoch does, call it whatever but there needs to be a non challenge mode alternative to trade since every season trade is simply all about getting ahead and staying ahead. People want to use fun items and try out builds, not be told "play this starter/budget build" because half the weirder stuff is unattainable.

Loot in this game is boring, simple as. Currency is not exciting, it is only exciting because nothing else even exists.

We are definitely playing the same game. I haven't tried Last Epoch because I choose to play console and that should be a huge advantage for POE2.
I don't have a job, I play way too much, struggle to upgrade, it's very unrewarding, I die every 45 seconds and it's simply not fun.
I play this popular poison pathfinder lvl 90 right now and I have considerable time and design in to a beautiful build, yet I'm having the worst time ever.

I am now 72 years old and find Poe2 very simple and enjoyable. I just watched how the gems work together and suddenly I had a clear.

Declined.

Sorry, I'm not reading the wall of text; break it up a bit

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B3t4nk0rt#3084 a écrit :

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PaintMaster#2396 a écrit :

Any decent build can do t15/16 and t3 pinnacles on 10 div budget, period.

You dont need to cry about that 1500 div bow you cant afford, because you don't need it do stuff your build most likely already does anyway.

If you reached the point when upgrades too expensive and barely noticeable, time to chill or try new build instead of crying, you're 44...

Nobody crying, you are the tipical kid who just come to spice things saying "dont cry" to provoque because you probably play gang squad and abuse exploits or buy currency.

If you have something to add use arguments please.

I gave some facts, and examples too, if you are so smart like you pretend to be, discuss them with arguments, not just trying to provoque with that stupid dont cry. Nobody crying, just observed a few problems this game has imo, learn to read, thats kids problem nowadays, they see so many vids they cant understand when something is just written without someone talking.

An arpg should allow me to do all content by my own, not by farming to top players to buy stuff, thats the point. If you cant understand that you probably wont understand what an arpg is just to start with. Read again, and slower, or ask your favourite youtuber to read it for you in a video, you will see nobody is crying, but discussing with arguments, thats why Im 44 and you just a kid with a default answer.

And how you can prove that i play in party or abuse anything? Prove, i'm waiting, since you all about facts.

To help you i even show you my vaal temple, i must be abusing a lot with it right?


What facts you gave? That best in slot items are expensive? Damn, unexpected right? Besides that i saw no other "facts" just crying.

There's no problems with the game aside of questionable fixes mid league (like that medallion change that got reverted), because you are the problem when you complain about not being able to buy 1500 divine bow, you don't understand that you don't need 1500 Div bow to beat the game, you don't have experience or knowledge to make those 1500 divines to buy that bow. You new to the game and you already complain you can't afford mirror tier bow.

In economy when everyone make a lot of currency it's easier than ever to make divines by doing most simplest flips or crafts, because everyone so rich noone will care to spend time to save couple divines. I spent like 3 hours 2 days ago crafting bunch of stuff and flipping some things, today my stash has 400 Divs more. I can do it nonstop, but i just have no use for that currency anyway, aside of gambling. Literally 1-2 step flips, and 2-3 step crafts.

And to prove that i know what i talk about when i say that builds work on very low budget, you can check https://www.youtube.com/@PaintMasterPoE/playlists one of over 50 videos i made for poe1 showing different builds doing endgame maps and sometimes even uber bosses on 1 divine budget.

I'd do it in PoE2, and will at some point, but too busy making my own builds for PoE2, also showing them work on low budget, so it's more accessible for new players that got into the game with all those clickbait meta builds that promise you insanely strong build while being quiet about the price or performance on low budget.

New player like you not making hundreds or even tens divines per week, but they get baited by flashy builds that require high budget, because some builds simply have no low budget version and made specifically to work only with high investment, using some expensive uniques or supports. And then those new players baited by those builds, struggling to make them work, then they go to forum and complain.

Yeah, prices are up across the board, even for mats and bases. But it's still not "crafting is impossible" levels of bad. Buying finished items is where it really hurts, because you're paying for someone's time, luck, and the current hype tax all at once.

To be clear, I'm talking from Standard, not league. So I'm not even dealing with the whole seasonal gold rush / early-abuse / mid-league whiplash cycle directly. Standard still has inflation and weird spikes, sure, but the core point stands - you can craft quite decent gear yourself without needing to live in trade 24/7.

Can you craft mirror-tier, S+++ streamer bait gear on a casual schedule? Probably not. Do you actually need that to play the game? Also probably not. A lot of builds function perfectly fine on solid A or even B-tier gear. If your character only feels playable with a 1500-div bow, that's less "the economy is unplayable" and more "the build is a sports car that only runs on unicorn blood".

What I'm doing instead is sticking to one clear goal, building around it, testing as I go, and seeing how far it gets me. If GGG steers the game in a different direction later, fine, I'll adapt or drop it. But I'm not going to treat PoE2 like a second job because the market is having a moment.

At this point PoE2 is a small hobby for me. Five hours a week, tops. The game in its current state doesn't deserve more than that. Maybe in the future, if GGG proves they can keep things stable and not reward the "abuse first, fix later" cycle, I'll invest more. Right now, I'm here to play a game, not run a currency exchange desk.

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B3t4nk0rt#3084 a écrit :

Dissapointed 44 years old player

More like 14. Being disappointed about the game is not a big deal by itself even if you are 44, but complaining about it publicly is kind of weird.

You see, you have many options to fix the issue with currency. The surprising part that instead of trying to fix the issue you are complaining as a child. Weird.

While fixing the issues with currency is clearly possible, the other people do, imagine even teenager girls do, they sit and play the game and selling a few hundred divine worth crafts one by one. But you it seems cannot find the solution, nice.

Even I, 100% casual player, poison bow, been playing in campaign since 0.4 launch and only finished it 2 days ago, and I already had 50d, when I only stepped on maps, one third of what you get a league, really? After another 10-15 hours (total fifty played) I reached level 90 and spent around 500d on my build.
To specify: 150d bow, 100d both rings, hat 50, megalomaniac 50, quiver 50, everything else is mostly random 100d at best total. And this is enough to do ALL THE CONTENT with ease.
And I will repeat, I am casual with 50 hours in game. And I can do all the content already. Don't tell me I am pro, please, because I am not.

I've been absolutely showered in loot this league, and all I've done with the temple is rush atziri

My gear is almost top tier for my build except for weapon but there's absolutely nothing in the game I can't do

The changes to tablets have made it so much easier to navigate the atlas

You don't have to craft to profit, my PoE1 strategy of selling shovels is slowly appearing in PoE2, there just needs to be enough endgame content so that not everyone is doing everything, and this league with all the big money sitting in temples it's a gold rush out there

OP, from one 40+ to another - it all doesn't matter. And it has nothing to do with our age.

So the season turned out to be actually fun, you know? The base is 40 div? Well go farm them like all the rest maybe? The temple *exists* you know.
I dunno what 0.01% gear you need that 40 div base for tho. Last really good piece of my gear, like almost BiS was 35 div. Headhunters go for 40-50 currently.

Me, personally, didn't have time to interact with the temple too much, but through the good ol map farm I made about 100 div in the last few days, got pretty decent gear, tried like 4 different builds on the druid, had a lot of fun etc.

It's a matter of repspective I guess.
This may be the best season for PoE2 just like affliction was for PoE1 in my opinion. Crazy time when everything is affordable, tons of currency, you can do w/e, time for crazy builds like that new autobomber or w/e.

Some people only start living at 40, others, well, some are the "grandpas" in their 20's.

It's a good reminder for everyone I think that our own perceptions tend to get in our way a lot of the time. The existence of a very powerful bow that is listed for 1500 divines is not as large of a problem as we imagine it to be.

Remember we are playing PoE, and not economic pvp, and it will make economic-disparity problems not really feel like real problems anymore.

There are thousands of players who beat everything in the game without trading at all!

If it really is the case that a 1500 divine bow really is the next incremental upgrade for you, it's not going to look like an insurmountable thing to obtain.

The people who in that situation play way more than most people can, for whatever reasons. Some of them are literal addicts playing 20hrs a day, or maybe they play this game as an actual job (or in lieu of one), or they become a Really Magnificent Trader, or they somehow have found themselves with weeks of discretionary recreational time - you're never going to be "economically" competitive at the top end outside of these categories.

That's just how online games are, especially this one, with a slot-machine-esque loot mechanic. If you're not pulling a lever as often as another person, you won't win as often, bottom line.

The best ways for casuals to get "rich" in this game are to casually grind and then craft and sell meta-gear, and even then, they'll never beat the people doing the same thing they are, just more often, so if this is you - don't even bother.

Every casual player can have enough to have fun no matter what strategy they choose, as long as it involves playing the game.

Plus you'll feel like a God irl when you can do the same thing with your crappy 2-div bow that another person requires the 1500 div bow to do :p