0.31 - Can't see rares on map anymore... bad move

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Feather#5383 a écrit :

Totally agree, I have to waste time checking down all kind of empty hallways now looking for rares if I want to kill them all or even most of them..

That is the VISION.

Waste time looking in every dead end. That´s probly the trade off for making the maps smaller.

On the old BIG maps, you wasted your time backtrackig from one rare to the other, now if you don´t look, you miss the rares and the loot they drop.

Time dump mechanics, that´s all this game is made of.

This. 100%. Give us both options please.

This patch is not good. I was having a nice time with how the map layout was. Bosses got buffed by 5x too ? I liked having mix of kill boss or hunt rares.

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Good move.

Great move, actually.

Rares on minimap was a temporary bandaid for a problem they just solved.

They literally already explained why they made the change. Stop staring at the minimap and actually play the game now.

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

Good move.

Great move, actually.

Rares on minimap was a temporary bandaid for a problem they just solved.

They literally already explained why they made the change. Stop staring at the minimap and actually play the game now.

Except it didn't. The rare icons were a way to solve backtracking. Now you have to backtrack after you've rushed to the boss, so that you can clear the map and get your loot.

How does having this QOL feature added, remove fun from the game for you? Because it only adds to the fun for me, and removing it has reduced the fun.

If this change was made because it was judged that the majority of players wanted it, then there seems to be a significant gap between how players and developers think. And the problem is that the developers aren't aware of it. If things continue like this, they'll likely make the same mistake in future major patches.

Well, if they remove the rare icons, the game will just become one where you search for boss icons instead.

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HashBob#0163 a écrit :

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

Good move.

Great move, actually.

Rares on minimap was a temporary bandaid for a problem they just solved.

They literally already explained why they made the change. Stop staring at the minimap and actually play the game now.

Except it didn't. The rare icons were a way to solve backtracking. Now you have to backtrack after you've rushed to the boss, so that you can clear the map and get your loot.

How does having this QOL feature added, remove fun from the game for you? Because it only adds to the fun for me, and removing it has reduced the fun.

You shouldn't have knowledge about where every single threat on the map is as soon as you start it. If you know there isn't a rare around, you know there's essentially zero danger. If you don't know, you'll be forced to pay a little bit more attention. Now these tiktokers can only spend half their gameplay not looking at the screen instead of 95% of it. Hopefully GGG can get that number closer to 0%.

Also, chasing down minimap icons is just plain BORING. Stop worrying about fomo over missing a rare or two. It doesn't even matter anymore. You aren't using up precious triple tower stacked map nodes anymore. You have infinite maps.

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

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HashBob#0163 a écrit :

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

Good move.

Great move, actually.

Rares on minimap was a temporary bandaid for a problem they just solved.

They literally already explained why they made the change. Stop staring at the minimap and actually play the game now.

Except it didn't. The rare icons were a way to solve backtracking. Now you have to backtrack after you've rushed to the boss, so that you can clear the map and get your loot.

How does having this QOL feature added, remove fun from the game for you? Because it only adds to the fun for me, and removing it has reduced the fun.

You shouldn't have knowledge about where every single threat on the map is as soon as you start it. If you know there isn't a rare around, you know there's essentially zero danger. If you don't know, you'll be forced to pay a little bit more attention. Now these tiktokers can only spend half their gameplay not looking at the screen instead of 95% of it. Hopefully GGG can get that number closer to 0%.

Also, chasing down minimap icons is just plain BORING. Stop worrying about fomo over missing a rare or two. It doesn't even matter anymore. You aren't using up precious triple tower stacked map nodes anymore. You have infinite maps.

How about quit telling players how to have fun in a game? Minimap icons did not make the game less fun for anyone as far as I know, and it actually made the game more fun for players like me. What part of me wanting icons back is somehow antithetical to PoE?

I'm sure there's a list of reason we both could use to justify our points. The bottom line is we both want to have fun and play game. Does minimap icon make game less fun for you? If yes, then we can have a more meaningful conversation I feel. Otherwise this devolves into us "arguing at each other" online about how we each find the game fun, rather than having a real discussion.

Internet has poisoned people's ability to communicate, I swear.

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