The real problem of XP LOSS.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

It is clear by your comment that the problem is how unfair deaths can be in this game, not xp-loss in itself. I doubt if we would have this number of complains about xp-loss if there wasn't such unfair situations randomly on maps.

I mean, I don't care how GGG handle death penalty on softcore, but it is clear that XP-loss isn't the root of the problem. Removing it would be at best just a band-aid fix.

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Lina#9615 a écrit :

A lot of people complaining about xp loss lately and even more after patch 0.2.0 released. But the real problem is not the lost hours and effort by dying from one shot boss killings or killings by unfortunate and not noticeable ground effects.

What is difficult from Devs and most pro-players to understand is that for a common player reaching 100 level it is essential to complete the full points of passives that will boost significantly the already damaged build they play. So it's not a lost effort for reaching max level cap but instead a lost effort to strengthen their stats (gear, damage, etc).

I don't know if future ACTs bring more passive points but one is for sure, they can't all players be profi-players just by learning game mechanisms (gid gud) and this wouldn't bring more than 10% overall difference in their play that occupies 70-80% of Poe2 players.

In conclusion it would be essential to see more videos from Devs of how can someone increase survibility during a fight, correct gear combinations, builds and staff that make newbies and common players feel generally more powerful to a demanding play.

I recommend also all players stop hating each other for what others be or want or what they can't be as always will be a scaling about how good can someone be or become in future.
Focus on helping people that not understand the game mechanisms, make some item gifts to them by lowering a bit the trade prices, in practice help them leveling.

After all we all be part of this community and somewhere in the game we will meet for teaming.

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SpankyKong#9805 a écrit :

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

It is clear by your comment that the problem is how unfair deaths can be in this game, not xp-loss in itself. I doubt if we would have this number of complains about xp-loss if there wasn't such unfair situations randomly on maps.

I mean, I don't care how GGG handle death penalty on softcore, but it is clear that XP-loss isn't the root of the problem. Removing it would be at best just a band-aid fix.

Losing earned progress is the root of my issue with the game. I can accept the game having poorly telegraphed one-hit kills. But nice try with the textbook gaslighting.

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SpankyKong#9805 a écrit :

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

It is clear by your comment that the problem is how unfair deaths can be in this game, not xp-loss in itself. I doubt if we would have this number of complains about xp-loss if there wasn't such unfair situations randomly on maps.

I mean, I don't care how GGG handle death penalty on softcore, but it is clear that XP-loss isn't the root of the problem. Removing it would be at best just a band-aid fix.

Losing earned progress is the root of my issue with the game. I can accept the game having poorly telegraphed one-hit kills. But nice try with the textbook gaslighting.

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

I patronized this devil guy before. He's a lvl97 HC SSF, which is very respectable. You don't get there by dying / losing even 0.00001% xp

and you don't lose earned progress if you don't die. You stop dying once you spend energy figuring out what kills you in the first place.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

Some weird things seems acceptable to you, I see. But who am I to judge? LOL

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SpankyKong#9805 a écrit :

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

I patronized this devil guy before. He's a lvl97 HC SSF, which is very respectable. You don't get there by dying / losing even 0.00001% xp

and you don't lose earned progress if you don't die. You stop dying once you spend energy figuring out what kills you in the first place.

If I wanted to experience the mentality that I should never die, I would have opted to play hardcore mode.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

Some weird things seems acceptable to you, I see. But who am I to judge? LOL

It's called - my feedback about my experience with the game. Thanks.

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

Here's the part I cannot understand, why do none of you ever ask "can you show me how to minimize deaths?" "what do i need to do to improve?"... and if you are too proud to ask for that...

why not just say "this game is unfair to melee / this game is unfair to non-ls player(not sure if true)" or "remove ondeath effects" or fix stunlocking.

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

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SpankyKong#9805 a écrit :

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

I patronized this devil guy before. He's a lvl97 HC SSF, which is very respectable. You don't get there by dying / losing even 0.00001% xp

and you don't lose earned progress if you don't die. You stop dying once you spend energy figuring out what kills you in the first place.

If I wanted to experience the mentality that I should never die, I would have opted to play hardcore mode.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

Some weird things seems acceptable to you, I see. But who am I to judge? LOL

It's called - my feedback about my experience with the game. Thanks.

Here's the part I cannot understand, why do none of you ever ask "can you show me how to minimize deaths?" "what do i need to do to improve?"... and if you are too proud to ask for that...

why not just say "this game is unfair to melee / this game is unfair to non-ls player(not sure if true)" or "remove ondeath effects" or fix stunlocking.