The real problem of XP LOSS.

Anyway, back to the original topic of this thread: Exp loss is bad and should be deleted/made optional. It is unacceptable for such a mechanic that deletes hours of people's time to exist in Softcore in a game in the year 2025. Many people have already given great suggestions, and not having exp loss in the game would certainly improve player numbers which means more profits. Its a win/win/win. Objectively a net-positive with no downsides.

And no, 99% of players do not have any interest in ladder or who gets lvl100 first because this game isn't an e-sport. Nor was this thread ever about build help, or dying in the game. It's about exp loss. It's even in the title.

Hardcore already exists for anyone that enjoys high risk gameplay. Softcore is not a mode where archaic outdated mechanics like exp loss on death should exist, ever.


Like the moment I saw that the exp bar doesn't move when you die in LE I realized just how tricked we've been as PoE players into thinking this is a normal mechanic for any modern game LMAO its so freeing and refreshing just seeing a game that respects your time and simply doesn't take away the things you've earned.

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

amulet has 2 useless mods. can just whittling it. since whittling is so cheap this league. of course if there are shelf ready +3 spell and spirit and ES for a few divs thats more worthwhile.

change belt to ingenuity with corrupted mod maybe for resist / ES

then you get more damage and more rarity.

Ye its more or less a placeholder just for the resistances, same with my gloves, so theres still alot of upgrades in the prefixes. But its good enough for high tier maps until I save up enough divines to buy something thats really good.

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

Anyway, back to the original topic of this thread: Exp loss is bad and should be deleted/made optional. It is unacceptable for such a mechanic that deletes hours of people's time to exist in Softcore in a game in the year 2025. Many people have already given great suggestions, and not having exp loss in the game would certainly improve player numbers which means more profits. Its a win/win/win. Objectively a net-positive with no downsides.

And no, 99% of players do not have any interest in ladder or who gets lvl100 first because this game isn't an e-sport. Nor was this thread ever about build help, or dying in the game. It's about exp loss. It's even in the title.

Hardcore already exists for anyone that enjoys high risk gameplay. Softcore is not a mode where archaic outdated mechanics like exp loss on death should exist, ever.

No.
Your here to collect your participation trophies because you lack any gaming skill whatsoever.

We want them to keep the game challenging because thats what we find fun.
This game is clearly targeted towards a more hardcore playerbase. So you can quit your whining and go play maplestory or whatever you normally do.

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Nyon#6673 a écrit :

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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :

amulet has 2 useless mods. can just whittling it. since whittling is so cheap this league. of course if there are shelf ready +3 spell and spirit and ES for a few divs thats more worthwhile.

change belt to ingenuity with corrupted mod maybe for resist / ES

then you get more damage and more rarity.

Ye its more or less a placeholder just for the resistances, same with my gloves, so theres still alot of upgrades in the prefixes. But its good enough for high tier maps until I save up enough divines to buy something thats really good.

i can give you some currency if you want as respect. you've done a good job dealing with these people.

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

This thread was never about dying in PoE 2, its about the consequences of death being way too severe in Softcore of all gamemodes. If all these players love risk and reward so much, they should all just go play HC instead of trying to force the 90% of the player population to play the way they want to and go through the same pain LMAO

You say it like losing 10% xp on SC is comparable to losing your whole char on HC. Though you all are welcome here, this is a really forced comparison LOL.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

This thread was never about dying in PoE 2, its about the consequences of death being way too severe in Softcore of all gamemodes. If all these players love risk and reward so much, they should all just go play HC instead of trying to force the 90% of the player population to play the way they want to and go through the same pain LMAO

You say it like losing 10% xp on SC is comparable to losing your whole char on HC. Though you all are welcome here, this is a really forced comparison LOL.

Nah I'm just saying its ridiculous to lose exp in Softcore which is supposed to be the easiest gamemode. Like exp loss doesn't exist in HC because char goes to standard sooo basically exp loss is there to punish people for choosing to play in Softcore? What kind of sense does that make.

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DEvil27#6183 a écrit :

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

This thread was never about dying in PoE 2, its about the consequences of death being way too severe in Softcore of all gamemodes. If all these players love risk and reward so much, they should all just go play HC instead of trying to force the 90% of the player population to play the way they want to and go through the same pain LMAO

You say it like losing 10% xp on SC is comparable to losing your whole char on HC. Though you all are welcome here, this is a really forced comparison LOL.

hc players making it far deserves respect. i cant argue. im not there. and im not those who pretend to be otherwise than they are.

'Trying to force the players...'

Umm. Ain't no one here doing that at all. It's the rules in game, we all live with. Sigh. This thread.

@Mods: How bout i do my usual in this thread... can we get it locked then?

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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :

'Trying to force the players...'

Umm. Ain't no one here doing that at all. It's the rules in game, we all live with. Sigh. This thread.

Yeah and we want it to change because its not fun. If a game "is what it is" then why does a feedback forum even exist? Why make any changes to the game at all ever?

If everyone followed that advice then nobody would ever complain and the game would never improve. There are no absolutes in any live-service game, it can always change for the community. Exp loss is just some outdated leftover mechanic from over 2 decades ago that should be forgotten forever lmao

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :

'Trying to force the players...'

Umm. Ain't no one here doing that at all. It's the rules in game, we all live with. Sigh. This thread.

Yeah and we want it to change because its not fun. If a game "is what it is" then why does a feedback forum even exist? Why make any changes to the game at all ever?

If everyone followed that advice then nobody would ever complain and the game would never improve. There are no absolutes in any live-service game, it can always change for the community. Exp loss is just some outdated leftover mechanic from over 2 decades ago that should be forgotten forever lmao

I'm not telling you not to post feedback. That's great. But your choice of words is leaves much to be desired sometimes.

Don't worry. I suffer from that too. :D