No...the majority of players do not hate the game

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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :
I've been noticing a lot of people tossing around the steam reviews and using it as reference to claim that "most players" are turned away from the game and that they are the "majority" of players. This of course, is so far from the truth and is not bored out once you inspect the data. So let's break it down and showcase why these people are wrong and that the MAJORITY of players are having a positive experience and enjoying themselves.

Since the launch there as been 141,321 total reviews. Currently, on steam it breaks down as following;

Since April 4th;

Negative: 17,601

In the last 30 days

Negative:13,549

Total players daily average since April 4th- 87,839

Percent of players who casted negative reviews since April 4th
Negative: 15.42% of daily playerbase.

source: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2694490/Path_of_Exile_2/#app_reviews_hash
https://steamcharts.com/app/2694490



So No...I know you want to pretend you are the majority but you are not. Even if you look at this forum and reddit. Both of them with people leaving negative reviews STILL account for less than 20% of the total player base.

Stop it cause its kind of sad that ya'll use this stuff and don't even understand the data you are trying to present as evidence of your argument.



Considering there were over a million total players on launch and about 80% seem to have quit the game for good i can only think your making up these assumptions. Its easy to say that 100% of people like the game when the only people still playing are a couple thousand of the people who had no issues and everybody who had issues has already quit.

And most people in general don't complain or write reviews they just move on. Even if your claim is correct that only 15% of the remaining 20% of original player are not happy, that is still incredibly bad.
i dont "hate" the game its just bad and unfun, waiting for fix and 3.26
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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :
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greyshadow#7139 a écrit :
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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :

Since the launch there as been 141,321 total reviews. Currently, on steam it breaks down as following;

Since April 4th;

Negative: 17,601

In the last 30 days

Negative:13,549

Total players daily average since April 4th- 87,839

Percent of players who casted negative reviews since April 4th
Negative: 15.42% of daily playerbase.


I have the impression that you are slightly overinterpreting what is written on Steam. There is that of all the recently posted reviews (~17k), most of them are negative. So we don't know what the "silent" people think about the current state of the game. To assume that they are all satisfied is far-reaching optimism.



False. 17k negative reviews have been left since the launch of POE 2. In the last 30 days (dawn of the hunt) the numbers are 13,549

You can look at the chart and use a calculator like i did lol


So that would mean that from release day up until Dawn of the Hunt dropped, there had only been around 4k negative reviews, with 13k negative reviews since DotH released.

Interesting, indeed.
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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :

Percent of players who casted negative reviews since April 4th
Negative: 15.42% of daily playerbase.


5-10% of people leave reviews.
that number is representative of the wider audience and the very data you provided is an extremely good indicator of mass dissatisfaction.

the numbers you are showing very literally debunk your point and in fact show a higher than usual rate of review to the tune of about 2x.
most people do indeed seem to dislike the game right now.

trying to manipulate mathematics to suit your narrative is the most hilarious cope i have ever seen lol.


heres another fun little data point for you:


POE2 v0.2 is tanking player count faster than usual.
this is how arpgs work in general, HOWEVER, its happening in v0.2 at a notably higher rate than it did in POE2 v0.1.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 a écrit :

Wanna see something cool?

PoE2 0.1.0 peak 580k and 305k on day 19. That's 52% playing the game.
PoE2 0.2.0 peak 245k and 85k on day 19. That's 34% playing the game, with a downward trend.




another side note:
POE1 saw consistent growth over time.




POE2 is not seeing growth over time, since you like data so much.



Dernière édition par JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171, le 27 avr. 2025 à 21:50:50
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
Well anyway, it does seem like the review bombing that happened after 0.2 released was probably in order to try to make a collaborative effort with the influence of streamers to try to use political tools to shift the game development into ones favor.

The patch wasn't bad and also the game isn't bad or unfun. The game is actually very good and has a lot of promise and quality. Gameplay is a clear evolution to your typical arpg game available. New ideas and skillful combat, as well as well designed encounters clearly make this the best arpg experience on the market rn.

So why are people claiming it's bad? Clearly those people don't seem to be able to judge the game properly or are able to do so, but choose to be irrational. And if you choose to be irrational about something like that, it's probably because there's money involved in doing so.

I can't help but feel there might be an effort of streamers and parts of the community to sabotage the game, because it is as good as it is.


Who are you to decide that people aren't capable of "judging something accurately?" Just because someone doesn't like the current state of the game means they're incompetent?

Trying to negate the opinions of people that don't like the game does absolutely nothing toward moving the game to a point where the majority of the target audience enjoys it.

Your statement can be summarized as "oh, well since you don't like the game, you're not capable of forming a competent opinion."

Such levels of copium are literally unreal. I don't have enough hands to facepalm adequately.
Dernière édition par Phlier#2565, le 27 avr. 2025 à 21:30:51
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Phlier#2565 a écrit :
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
Well anyway, it does seem like the review bombing that happened after 0.2 released was probably in order to try to make a collaborative effort with the influence of streamers to try to use political tools to shift the game development into ones favor.

The patch wasn't bad and also the game isn't bad or unfun. The game is actually very good and has a lot of promise and quality. Gameplay is a clear evolution to your typical arpg game available. New ideas and skillful combat, as well as well designed encounters clearly make this the best arpg experience on the market rn.

So why are people claiming it's bad? Clearly those people don't seem to be able to judge the game properly or are able to do so, but choose to be irrational. And if you choose to be irrational about something like that, it's probably because there's money involved in doing so.

I can't help but feel there might be an effort of streamers and parts of the community to sabotage the game, because it is as good as it is.


Who are you to decide that people aren't capable of "judging something accurately?" Just because someone doesn't like the current state of the game means they're incompetent?

Trying to negate the opinions of people that don't like the game does absolutely nothing toward moving the game to a point where the majority of the target audience enjoys it.

Your statement can be summarized as "oh, well since you don't like the game, you're not capable of forming a competent opinion."

Such levels of copium are literally unreal.


Prove me wrong and make a list of things you like and don't like about the game.
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Phlier#2565 a écrit :
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
Well anyway, it does seem like the review bombing that happened after 0.2 released was probably in order to try to make a collaborative effort with the influence of streamers to try to use political tools to shift the game development into ones favor.

The patch wasn't bad and also the game isn't bad or unfun. The game is actually very good and has a lot of promise and quality. Gameplay is a clear evolution to your typical arpg game available. New ideas and skillful combat, as well as well designed encounters clearly make this the best arpg experience on the market rn.

So why are people claiming it's bad? Clearly those people don't seem to be able to judge the game properly or are able to do so, but choose to be irrational. And if you choose to be irrational about something like that, it's probably because there's money involved in doing so.

I can't help but feel there might be an effort of streamers and parts of the community to sabotage the game, because it is as good as it is.


Who are you to decide that people aren't capable of "judging something accurately?" Just because someone doesn't like the current state of the game means they're incompetent?

Trying to negate the opinions of people that don't like the game does absolutely nothing toward moving the game to a point where the majority of the target audience enjoys it.

Your statement can be summarized as "oh, well since you don't like the game, you're not capable of forming a competent opinion."

Such levels of copium are literally unreal.


This is high levels of cope. I don't watch streamers at all, I don't even like poe1 that much either so I have no agenda of them making a clone of that. The fact is many people don't like this season and the numbers show that. You can blame whatever you want. Hopefully you are at least being paid for sticking up for this.
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
Well anyway, it does seem like the review bombing that happened after 0.2 released was probably in order to try to make a collaborative effort with the influence of streamers to try to use political tools to shift the game development into ones favor.

The patch wasn't bad and also the game isn't bad or unfun. The game is actually very good and has a lot of promise and quality. Gameplay is a clear evolution to your typical arpg game available. New ideas and skillful combat, as well as well designed encounters clearly make this the best arpg experience on the market rn.

So why are people claiming it's bad? Clearly those people don't seem to be able to judge the game properly or are able to do so, but choose to be irrational. And if you choose to be irrational about something like that, it's probably because there's money involved in doing so.

I can't help but feel there might be an effort of streamers and parts of the community to sabotage the game, because it is as good as it is.


It would seem to me it is you who choose irrationality and not others. You assert time and time again. Don't talk about other peoples judgement when all you say are things like "it isnt bad or unfun, its actually very good". It's like saying this bagel isn't untasty, its actually tasty. My brain cells are hurting.

Day1 of 0.2 already felt miserable and imbalanced leading to the lack of build diversity, if you choose to ignore this and all the facts presented across many threads, it makes any discussion with you meaningless. Do you understand this? Yes or no?

Streamers are more loyal than you are to this game. Some have been playing since beta.

I haven't posted for years, and I came back here after this misery of a release.
`Spent 2 mirrors on my build, but I'm only Level 98.` LOL
`From just quick sweep of your characters, toxic rain, golems .. sure, non meta... sure.` LOL
`What are divs?`
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
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Phlier#2565 a écrit :
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Naharez#3496 a écrit :
Well anyway, it does seem like the review bombing that happened after 0.2 released was probably in order to try to make a collaborative effort with the influence of streamers to try to use political tools to shift the game development into ones favor.

The patch wasn't bad and also the game isn't bad or unfun. The game is actually very good and has a lot of promise and quality. Gameplay is a clear evolution to your typical arpg game available. New ideas and skillful combat, as well as well designed encounters clearly make this the best arpg experience on the market rn.

So why are people claiming it's bad? Clearly those people don't seem to be able to judge the game properly or are able to do so, but choose to be irrational. And if you choose to be irrational about something like that, it's probably because there's money involved in doing so.

I can't help but feel there might be an effort of streamers and parts of the community to sabotage the game, because it is as good as it is.


Who are you to decide that people aren't capable of "judging something accurately?" Just because someone doesn't like the current state of the game means they're incompetent?

Trying to negate the opinions of people that don't like the game does absolutely nothing toward moving the game to a point where the majority of the target audience enjoys it.

Your statement can be summarized as "oh, well since you don't like the game, you're not capable of forming a competent opinion."

Such levels of copium are literally unreal.


Prove me wrong and make a list of things you like and don't like about the game.


I don't need to prove you wrong, as your logic is so horrid, it's unreal you could actually believe it.
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Phlier#2565 a écrit :
So that would mean that from release day up until Dawn of the Hunt dropped, there had only been around 4k negative reviews, with 13k negative reviews since DotH released.

Interesting, indeed.
I don't know where he gets his numbers from, but it's not correct.

Patch 0.1
Dec, positive 63.440 to 15.616 negative - avg 78% positive.
Jan, positive 17.575 to 5.071 negative - avg 76% positive.

Patch 0.2
Apr, positive 6.344 to 11,279 negative - 36% positive.

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