[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

Yeah, I thought of that instantly, it's a significant buff for bow dot casters. Ultimatum nerfs didn't go through well it seems :o

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On the other hand, forbidden rites looks busted mechanicly. Guess we'll see if it can boss.

Welcome back Dark! Will you be playing / updating this build for 3.15?

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tony32p a écrit :

Why do people keep talking about bows? Didn’t last league make it so dot multipliers from bows and quivers don’t effect non bow skill gems? Or was it just quivers?

Just quivers.

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Chumber a écrit :

This affects the way we craft our bow right?

Yes.
The simple way would be:

Take lvl 82+ hunter bow
alt-spam for liquefaction (35% dot multi suffix)
regal / annul until 1 mod is left
multimod + cannot roll attack modifiers
ex slam twice (+1 gems & hunter chaos dmg prefix)
recraft multimod + chaos multi suffix (the one changed) + +2 to support gems

The hard way would be (I think it should work?):
alt-spam for liquefaction
regal
aisling slam and hope it eats regaled mod, if it eats liquefaction, restart
if aisling gave prefix, you have to restart
if aisling gave suffix, hope you can unveil chaos dot multi (you could bench craft some veiled suffix to block it from appearing in the 3 unveil options from what they said) - if it doesn't, you have to restart (maybe the two above are not necessary if aisling can slam the item with the "wrong" unveiled mod and try to replace that)
if you manage to get liquefaction + aisling mod without bricking it, craft cannot roll attack modifiers, slam ex twice
then craft +2 to support gems
it will have open suffix but since it's hunter influenced, can't slam a conq orb, no idea what to do with it

But the plan is:
prefix:
+1 socketed gems
+2 support gems (crafted)
60-90 increased chaos damage (hunter mod)
suffix:
35% dot multi
48% chaos dot multi (aisling)
- empty

Zizaren in his recent video mentioned about simply using delirium gloves for his ED build but don't really know what the point of that would be here.

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Jadran a écrit :

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

Yeah, I thought of that instantly, it's a significant buff for bow dot casters. Ultimatum nerfs didn't go through well it seems :o

[...]

On the other hand, forbidden rites looks busted mechanicly. Guess we'll see if it can boss.

Welcome back Dark! Will you be playing / updating this build for 3.15?

I thought about it, before reading the patch notes...
I'll play this league, yes. Took a break in ultimatum.
I'm mostly bothered by the lack of a 6th support gem, tbh. I think gloves could be good, really. But like, that would imply changing almost everything.

I think I'll play something else. Archmage still looks good, given the mana changes. It got nerfed hard damage wise, but should still be competitive comparatively, and more tanky than ever.

If I don't play ED, don't expect me to update the guide, no. If I do, I'll do it as I progress myself, so I really wouldn't recommend following it unless oyu know what you're doing.
Also, crafting changed, and I'm not up to date with every way to make items nowourdays... Still thinking the harvest way.

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

Archmage still looks good, given the mana changes. It got nerfed hard damage wise, but should still be competitive comparatively, and more tanky than ever.

Do you think the new mana rune skill (can't be supported by archmage) will compare with old archmage skills? Assuming similar build (MOM/agnostic).

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Viktranka a écrit :

Do you think the new mana rune skill (can't be supported by archmage) will compare with old archmage skills? Assuming similar build (MOM/agnostic).

That thing looks broken with indigon, ngl.

sad to hear there wont be an update to a tankier version of ed contagion.. i had a blast w this build.. but i understand where your coming from. hope you enjoy whatever you play this league :)

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

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Jadran a écrit :

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

Yeah, I thought of that instantly, it's a significant buff for bow dot casters. Ultimatum nerfs didn't go through well it seems :o

[...]

On the other hand, forbidden rites looks busted mechanicly. Guess we'll see if it can boss.

Welcome back Dark! Will you be playing / updating this build for 3.15?

I thought about it, before reading the patch notes...

Sounds pretty familiar to me

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Darkxellmc a écrit :

If I don't play ED, don't expect me to update the guide, no. If I do, I'll do it as I progress myself, so I really wouldn't recommend following it unless oyu know what you're doing.
Also, crafting changed, and I'm not up to date with every way to make items nowourdays... Still thinking the harvest way.

That is understandable. But even if it's a sad thing for me because I will not be able to adjust on my own I will not complain about it. After testing a dozen other builds in the past leagues this here was the best for me by far so I am still very grateful for all the hours of fun that this build gave me.

I skipped Ultimatium and I missed some of the changes too. Combined with the new stuff coming with the patch: has anyone an idea of what might be an interesting build to play now that might have similar playstyle? Because now I am more confused than ever tbh and any suggestions would be nice.

And no worries...I will not blame anyone if I don't like it after trying:).

PoB Update is out, my Ultimatum ED went from 1.3m to 900k with decent gear (30-50ex i think)

So yeah, the nerf hits but that's still good enough for easy mapping, Sirius and co will suck tho xD

On a second note i think he forgot to remove the dot dmg on Witchfire Brew, didn't that one get removed? If yes i am down to 740k -.- with infusion and 7 withere stacks plus frenzy charges.

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Chumber a écrit :

PoB Update is out, my Ultimatum ED went from 1.3m to 900k with decent gear (30-50ex i think)

So yeah, the nerf hits but that's still good enough for easy mapping, Sirius and co will suck tho xD

On a second note i think he forgot to remove the dot dmg on Witchfire Brew, didn't that one get removed? If yes i am down to 740k -.- with infusion and 7 withere stacks plus frenzy charges.

Yes, dot was removed on witchfire, traded for slightly better flask uptime on bosses.
Not sure how you're loosing 25% damage to removing witchfire tho.