A broad P2W definition in law would paint premium stash tabs P2W
" The part I was referring to that you made an ass out of yourself is saying noone in this thread who thinks tabs are a type of p2w has ever beaten shaper. I'm clearly a visible counterpoint to that. As to the item bloat, at least we agree on that point. |
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" didnt know people had to "beat" (more like play a fotm build) in order to have an opinion.. trolls are supposed to be funny, not your lame low bait. oh and fuck beating shaper legit by the way, dealing with trade system is already one of the worst experiences any game has to offer out there even on the pure pay to win korean mmo's so yeah, killing your "shaper" means absolute little to nothing compared to dealing with the real cortex of this game.. the trade. but again by all means keep your support, supporter. "Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure." Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words. poe0.2/10. Nuff said. Dernière édition par Xystre#4581, le 19 mai 2019 à 04:36:41
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Stash tabs has always been pay to win using the hardcore man mode P2W definition since Day 1.
Most people that's not dumb accept this fact because PoE still have one of the least P2W cash shop system, and is closest to being "truly free". But yes again for a lot of old hardcore players that came thru the mmorpg boom since UO/EQ could tell you, pay for convenience has always been p2w in mmorpgs because you purchased "time" you otherwise could be spent raiding grinding and pvping. This of course is also true for PoE, you purchased time with cash of which you would spent swapping accounts and manual linking trade garbage to forum and so on. Younger people seem to have different idea for p2w system... nowadays. The real hardcore PoE players and the elites sit in town and zoning in and out of their hideouts trading items. Noobs that don't know how to play PoE correctly, kill monsters for items. It's pure fact, it will never change. Welcome to PoE. Dernière édition par Pewzor#2343, le 19 mai 2019 à 07:01:33
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" DotA is an example of a F2P game without any P2W elements. I never said they didn't exist, because they do. But do they define the "F2P" monetization model? No. They're more of an exception than a rule, aren't they? DotA is a game made by one of the biggest developers in the world. They know they will have millions of players from the get-go. They can develop their monetization based on that. Chris has said that their "breaking point" is around 10000 players. Go figure that "smaller games" have to do things a little bit different. But again; F2P does not mean - hand has never meant - "No P2W". Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Dernière édition par Phrazz#3529, le 19 mai 2019 à 10:41:45
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" I may agree. Doesn't change the fact that PoE would still be a F2P game. F2P does not mean "100% free game". F2P is just the name of the monetization model, which may or may not contain P2W. A game with 100 P2W elements isn't less of a F2P game than a game with no P2W elements. Is it more "unethical"? Sure. Is it a stupid way to make money, because a lot of P2W elements target addiction? Sure. But that's beside the point. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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you guys are still not bored of this thread? stash tabs are p2w and arguing over it isn't gonna change that fact so just let this thread die lol
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Is it pay to win if you have to pay for the game to see it in full? E.g. a Demo? Because in the worst case, stash tabs are not worse than "you reached lvl 15, now pay up to continue"
("If the definition is: "paying players have an advantage", than even paying for the full game is pay to win) Dernière édition par UlfgardLeo#1382, le 19 mai 2019 à 12:26:44
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" just googled, to compare to this, ggg could make temp leagues subscription based for 30 dollars and grant players participating 10 premium tabs which get deleted after the temp league. totally no pay to win then! ;) age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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" You must have quite the orchard with those cherry-picking skills! The bonuses provided by that subscription don't affect gameplay. No stat increases, no access to gameplay items that are locked behind a paywall, your heroes don't level up faster than others during a match. Either you did absolutely NO research about what it entails, or you are deliberately attempting to straw-man it. Either way, you're in the wrong. Edit: In case it's not clear, the exp mentioned in relation to the subscription is toward out-of-game hero levels which earn you cosmetic shit. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168 Dernière édition par Albinosaurus#7360, le 20 mai 2019 à 01:53:27
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