Chaos recipe nerf only fixed a symptom

Scrotie, when you are given multiple reasons as to why something won't work, AND it has been tested and removed, AND there has been a substantially better alternative listed, it's time to stop lying to yourself about the quality of the idea.

Increasing damage further is a really terrible idea.

What needs to be done is better AI and better abilities on mobs, so they do more of an effort in attacking ranged than melee in a group scenario

Yeah i definitely didnt mean every monster, generic zombies and the like obviously wouldnt be the ones getting better ai or aoe abilities. There are plenty of monsters that would be good candidates for such changes though, both mechanically and thematically.

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deteego a écrit :

Increasing damage further is a really terrible idea.

What needs to be done is better AI and better abilities on mobs, so they do more of an effort in attacking ranged than melee in a group scenario

*a big round of cheers and applause*

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gh0un a écrit :

In the last patch, i would do vaal normal runs with 5 dummy accounts that i would manually put into vaal´s room, kill the boos, loot the rares, and create chaos orbs with the recipe.

People like you made this "nerf" needed and now you complain. That's like saying: "Man i drive to work with 200 km/h killing ~5 people per day, why there is now a speed limit on the roads...i want to kill 5 people per day again :/ "

Using multiple chars and stuff isn't the way a game should be played, if it takes hours to get enough maps to fuse them to a higher one, then so be it.
You should have noticed the game is from "GRINDING Gear Games". Grinding ! You got it ?

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Darkrox01 a écrit :

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gh0un a écrit :

In the last patch, i would do vaal normal runs with 5 dummy accounts that i would manually put into vaal´s room, kill the boos, loot the rares, and create chaos orbs with the recipe.

People like you made this "nerf" needed and now you complain.
That's like saying: "Man i drive to work with 200 km/h killing ~5 people per day, why there is now a speed limit on the roads...i want to kill 5 people per day again :/ "

Using multiple chars and stuff isn't the way a game should be played, if it takes hours to get enough maps to fuse them to a higher one, then so be it.
You should have noticed the game is from "GRINDING Gear Games". Grinding ! You got it ?

You really fail at going to the root of the issue, which is doing maps cost a lot of currency, which happens to NOT drop enough in high-level content which should be sufficiently rewarding.
Instead you accuse people because they only try to desperately find a small opening in the system so they can play content that is reasonably efficient for them.

BTW, your analogy is pure crap and not warranted.

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Darkrox01 a écrit :

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gh0un a écrit :

In the last patch, i would do vaal normal runs with 5 dummy accounts that i would manually put into vaal´s room, kill the boos, loot the rares, and create chaos orbs with the recipe.

People like you made this "nerf" needed and now you complain. That's like saying: "Man i drive to work with 200 km/h killing ~5 people per day, why there is now a speed limit on the roads...i want to kill 5 people per day again :/ "

Using multiple chars and stuff isn't the way a game should be played, if it takes hours to get enough maps to fuse them to a higher one, then so be it.
You should have noticed the game is from "GRINDING Gear Games". Grinding ! You got it ?

FUNNILY ENOUGH GRINDING NORMAL MERVEIL WITH MULTIBOXING IS MORE AKIN TO GRINDING THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

PS: Only top end players are supposed to be able to do anything (they can get currency - high ilvl items sell). Look at events and making currency in this game - heavily, heavily skewed in favor of high level players running in groups. And there are very few of those.

I was also disappointed when veterans of CB openly admitted they are multi-loading when the thing was published here. I simply hoped that people who lived with this game would not resort to these kind of things.

The above statement does not make the issues described by OP any smaller. In fact, when people with great knowledge of the game must resort to these kind of things, it alone tells you that the situation is quite dire.

There need to be better way to get enough currency to use maps. I'm mapping solo at the moment at basic map level, ie. 66, 67 and occasional 68, but even I constantly face issues with currency. Orb of alteration are always on short supply. The currency drops within maps are very rare and in no way can pay even for the costs of rolling the proper mods. If I have to buy alteration orbs on the market rather than just farming Docks/Temple for drops to vendor, I would be broke long time ago.
The idea that I have to alch and chaos higher level maps sounds too crazy for me considering what amount of currency I have saved since OB started.

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gh0un a écrit :

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asdf2000 a écrit :

the problem is not currency drop rate, it's map drop rate.

If the map drop rate is increased, do you think high level characters would stop doing what i wrote in the OP?
No they wouldnt, i wouldnt anyways.
Increased map drop rate + more currency to put into it = more high level maps.

The problem is high lvl content doesnt drop anything unless you 6 man party it with dummies.

Lol. Or you could find some friends??

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Cant believe youve written this huge essay about shitty solo drop rates and never considered playing with ACTUAL people.

Maps r the worst gold sink ever, u need to sink a butt load of currency to play end game, is like paying 10M per act 3 run in d3...