2h Pure Physical Heavy Strike Slayer - build review (state of melee)

"disproves"



yeah.... no.

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this build can move while damaging! let's pretend there are no trade-offs and that everything is the same! yeah! disproving!

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robmafia a écrit :

"disproves"



yeah.... no.

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this build can move while damaging! let's pretend there are no trade-offs and that everything is the same! yeah! disproving!

You're free to show what the "trade-offs" are at any time.

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鬼殺し a écrit :

Well, that's it. I officially throw my 'mere presence is a derail' crown at robmafia. Enjoy.

Hey now, don't give it attention - forum will pay the price. This is what it wants, now it's gonna keep going feeling special doing it. Seemingly it doesn't have anything better to use time for.

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sidtherat a écrit :

such mundane and forgotten stuff like mana management. got streamlined to the point of redundancy.

right now people pick mana nodes because of MoM. not because they need to cast spells. triggered spells costing 0 mana is one of the BIGGEST and DUMBEST design decision in gaming history. it turned multi dimensional resource management and pressure (used to balance relative power) into one-liner: get more life.

absurd pack density making flasks permanent -> removes AR/EV gear from the game (except QoTF) as one flask gives you FAR MORE than any gear ever will

this alone broke the balance of power

That I can definitely agree with.

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鬼殺し a écrit :

...I'm still reeling a bit at my own realisation that even games like Doom and Unreal Tournament had more realistic ammunition/resource management than PoE. That we really do have IDKFA on pretty much permanently, and to play melee despite that seems...really stupid.

It seems we players and/or GGG also have IDFK on at least most of the time.

Very good post, as former melee player I agree with everything posted by OP. Personally can only add: NEWBTRAP 6 - Brass dome. In theory, best armour based armour in the game. Up to 5682 armor, "Take no Extra Damage from Critical Strikes" node, looks good? Unfortunately, pure bullshit. In fact "take no extra damage from crits" probably concerns only physical damage, because even uber lab Izaro did not have any problems with oneshooting my char with some ele attack. 60k+ armor, 6.3k life, all ele resistances 75%... Baaaam, I'm dead. I was unable to avoid it, as I had to stay close to bastard. After the first time I thought it was an unfortunate accident, after the seventh I rebuild my character to pure ranged. Melee? Never again.

Never again even if they returned back instant leech. Too many idiotic things was added in the meantime. That homing fireball (forgot the name) - few days ago on Beachhead arena I was chased by 3 of them in the same time, along with 2 lightning mirages. If I was melee, no any chance to survive such thing, instant leech or not, not to mention that I would not even notice them in crowd.

To recapitulate, melee is beyond fixing. It should be completly removed from game, at least pure physical, excluding "pseudo melee" things like molten strike, which is not any "melee" in fact, but some kind of "short and middle ranged" projectile based ranged skill.

I'm not the most experienced guy when it comes to really hard content (deep delve-HC) but I disagree about Brass Dome. Yes, it's situational and it might not be ideal for most builds, but I think that is far from a noobtrap. If your problem was Uber Izaro, I really don't know if it was a body armour issue. I doubt that any melee skill should have real issues there, if build properly.

Brass Dome can actually be an amazing armor piece. Monster crit multi can go up to 175% of normal damage, so if you take that down to 100% normal damage you're taking nearly 43% less damage from the big damage bursts that are much more likely to kill you.

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Jdahl22 a écrit :

I'm not the most experienced guy when it comes to really hard content (deep delve-HC) but I disagree about Brass Dome. Yes, it's situational and it might not be ideal for most builds, but I think that is far from a noobtrap. If your problem was Uber Izaro, I really don't know if it was a body armour issue. I doubt that any melee skill should have real issues there, if build properly.

Uh really? I had identical build back in Delve and in Incursion too. Pure physical, cleave, brass dome based, utilized combination Cowards Legacy-Brass Dome - 2 perfect Dreadbeaks, watcher eye with "Unefected by Vulnerability while affected by determination" - Aul'a uprising with "determination reserves no mana" - gloves with vulnerability on hit. Really high DPS and really high defences. Ootcome? In Incursion and Delve worked fine, in Betreyal, suddenly, stopped. I was oneshooted by Izaro and Syndicate too. Don't tell me about "build properly", as my characters was able to facetank almost all bosses, kill Delve bosses and Shaper (not Uber Elder though). Untill Betreyal league, where they suddenly... stopped work. I don't know why, but I know, I will never even touch melee in this game.

Brass dome is amazing, when you can apply it to a build it is probably easily the single best protective chest in the game.

Nothing will give you as much protection against spike damage + make physical a breeze. It is a criminally underrated item.

You say it didn't help you much, but you let him get so powered up, imagine how much hp you would need to get not oneshot on a crit.