2h Pure Physical Heavy Strike Slayer - build review (state of melee)

Here to defend brass dome lol.

In delve i did some carries. On some really nasty encounters brass dome was easily the best option to ensure no spike dmg would kill me.
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postrach_myszy a écrit :

Uh really? I had identical build back in Delve and in Incursion too. Pure physical, cleave, brass dome based, utilized combination Cowards Legacy-Brass Dome - 2 perfect Dreadbeaks, watcher eye with "Unefected by Vulnerability while affected by determination" - Aul'a uprising with "determination reserves no mana" - gloves with vulnerability on hit. Really high DPS and really high defences. Ootcome? In Incursion and Delve worked fine, in Betreyal, suddenly, stopped. I was oneshooted by Izaro and Syndicate too. Don't tell me about "build properly", as my characters was able to facetank almost all bosses, kill Delve bosses and Shaper (not Uber Elder though). Untill Betreyal league, where they suddenly... stopped work. I don't know why, but I know, I will never even touch melee in this game.


I don't know what may have changed in betrayal considering Izaro. But considering syndicate, are you sure it was not chaos res issue? I don't understand what Dome has to do with it. I'm not telling you that you don't know how to build, but Izaro shouldn't be an issue for any melee skill.
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Jdahl22 a écrit :

I don't know what may have changed in betrayal considering Izaro. But considering syndicate, are you sure it was not chaos res issue? I don't understand what Dome has to do with it. I'm not telling you that you don't know how to build, but Izaro shouldn't be an issue for any melee skill.

Yes, It shouldn't. But he starts to be an issue in Betreyal, at least for me, and my build was copypaste from my previous designs. My chaos resists was like +30, completly enough in Incursion. Suddenly, I started to die from Izaro slams and from Syndicate damage of course too. I don't know what was done, Izaros secret buff or Brass dome secret nerf, whatever. I notoced I still could facetank some enemies (like Mino or Chimera), but was destroyed by others (mentioned Izaro). This, together with horrible clearspeed were the last factors conwinced me about uselesness of melee in this game.

With melee I was unable to level my jugg neyond level 91, after complete build rework (still jugg, but pure ranged) I was able to reach lvl solo 97, without single "pure breachstone" run. Difference was unbelievable huge.
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postrach_myszy a écrit :
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Jdahl22 a écrit :

I don't know what may have changed in betrayal considering Izaro. But considering syndicate, are you sure it was not chaos res issue? I don't understand what Dome has to do with it. I'm not telling you that you don't know how to build, but Izaro shouldn't be an issue for any melee skill.

Yes, It shouldn't. But he starts to be an issue in Betreyal, at least for me, and my build was copypaste from my previous designs. My chaos resists was like +30, completly enough in Incursion. Suddenly, I started to die from Izaro slams and from Syndicate damage of course too. I don't know what was done, Izaros secret buff or Brass dome secret nerf, whatever. I notoced I still could facetank some enemies (like Mino or Chimera), but was destroyed by others (mentioned Izaro). This, together with horrible clearspeed were the last factors conwinced me about uselesness of melee in this game.

With melee I was unable to level my jugg neyond level 91, after complete build rework (still jugg, but pure ranged) I was able to reach lvl solo 97, without single "pure breachstone" run. Difference was unbelievable huge.


Dud at this point i'm starting to feel curious about your issue. Izaro in the specific.

You sure you weren't under the effect of some nasty izaro buff/debuff? (essence and/or curses)

Cuz your char, as you described it, can't die normally to izaro. Like, never.
lolz @ hilarious criticism of brass dome

lolz @ asking me to explain something simple while reporting every post (and on a day when the moderation was... silly. my god, the mundane/objective things that were edited... lolz @ that, too)

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etkratos a écrit :


Dud at this point i'm starting to feel curious about your issue. Izaro in the specific.

You sure you weren't under the effect of some nasty izaro buff/debuff? (essence and/or curses)

Cuz your char, as you described it, can't die normally to izaro. Like, never.

Sure? I don't know. When it comes to Izaro, in Incursion and Delve my tactic was simple. Stay as close as possible, when boss starts to be "damagable" I just facetanked him, as I was able to take any hit. No problem there, with movement speed 100 without flasks lab was breeze and profitable. Untill Betreyal. There, with the same combination I started to die. Came close to Izaro, wait untill he is vulnerable... Baaam! I'm dead. And again, and again and again, simply oneshooted. I don't know whether there was some ele buff or something, he just oneshooted. Which did not happend in previous leagues. If you read my described configuration, you must know that I know what I'm doing. I suspect some hidden nerf or buff, maybe not Izaro himself, but some overall buff of monsters ele damage, that influented Izaro too. But at the end I'm ok, it healed me from melee forever :) If I want to melee, I will install Skyrim or even Fallout IV :)
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postrach_myszy a écrit :
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etkratos a écrit :


Dud at this point i'm starting to feel curious about your issue. Izaro in the specific.

You sure you weren't under the effect of some nasty izaro buff/debuff? (essence and/or curses)

Cuz your char, as you described it, can't die normally to izaro. Like, never.

Sure? I don't know. When it comes to Izaro, in Incursion and Delve my tactic was simple. Stay as close as possible, when boss starts to be "damagable" I just facetanked him, as I was able to take any hit. No problem there, with movement speed 100 without flasks lab was breeze and profitable. Untill Betreyal. There, with the same combination I started to die. Came close to Izaro, wait untill he is vulnerable... Baaam! I'm dead. And again, and again and again, simply oneshooted. I don't know whether there was some ele buff or something, he just oneshooted. Which did not happend in previous leagues. If you read my described configuration, you must know that I know what I'm doing. I suspect some hidden nerf or buff, maybe not Izaro himself, but some overall buff of monsters ele damage, that influented Izaro too. But at the end I'm ok, it healed me from melee forever :) If I want to melee, I will install Skyrim or even Fallout IV :)


i Did run like 5 labs this league so i can't say this 100% but izaro looked the same as ever.

All i can think off are again izaro buffs and debuffs. Essences conduits and fonts + charge distruptors (last mostly hard only if you go for full keys, fonts can be countered by a warding flask) can make the last fight somewhat dangerous if you just focus in physical reduction.
it is perfectly possible that while changing Item X they also inadvertently changed Item B. it happened in the past and with devastating consequences.

Brass Dome is barely used so it is highly likely that even if the bug exists it simply wasnt noticed.

on the other hand if we had Arc doing half the damage im sure we would ALL know about

not to mention that after Loreweave introduction chest slot is HEAVILY contested. 80% max res AND no drawback (i mean - the drawback are the garbage basic defensive stats BUT NOONE CARES ABOUT THEM).. why would anyone pick Brass Dome if what kills is mostly elemental and/or DoTs and phys is so easily mitigated nowadays with 'phys taken as ele' + flat phys reduction..
loreweave's good, but it's vastly over-rated.

the best thing about it is it's simplicity to build around. it's pretty easy to build something better, though.

i'll take tons more armour and life/es (on chest) and pick up some + max res from the tree/gear, almost every time.

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