Please Remove MoM from Tree

The developers don't want MoM anywhere near EB as Charan stated. That is the primary reason it is as far away as it is. Even though thematically, it should be near witch.
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CliveHowlitzer a écrit :
The developers don't want MoM anywhere near EB as Charan stated. That is the primary reason it is as far away as it is. Even though thematically, it should be near witch.


It doesn't have to be near witch in order to be a viable keystone on the tree, a position like off of sentinel (above the duelist) would make the keystone a few point investment rather then traveling to a point in the tree where no build would ever go.

I'd love to see some stats on how many people take the passive keystone, I imagine it is 1% or less that use the chest.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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goetzjam a écrit :
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CliveHowlitzer a écrit :
The developers don't want MoM anywhere near EB as Charan stated. That is the primary reason it is as far away as it is. Even though thematically, it should be near witch.


It doesn't have to be near witch in order to be a viable keystone on the tree, a position like off of sentinel (above the duelist) would make the keystone a few point investment rather then traveling to a point in the tree where no build would ever go.

I'd love to see some stats on how many people take the passive keystone, I imagine it is 1% or less that use the chest.

I took it on my Poison Arrow Ranger in Ambush league. However, I was going all over the place anyway and this was before they changed all the chaos nodes. So my investments for passives were a bit different.

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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :
At some point, GGG were experimenting with keystone placements that were less than optimal just to give people some challenge I believe. Most importantly, Eldritch Battery and Mind Over Matter had to be separated by as much distance as possible -- too obvious a synergy. As with quite a few of GGG's experiments, it didn't really go so well.

I'd be happy with Eldritch Battery and Mind Over Matter swapping places, give or take, but the flavour text for Eldritch Battery doesn't really fit a Duelist.

Eh, whatever.


I'm in support of this idea.
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Catchafire2000 a écrit :
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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :
At some point, GGG were experimenting with keystone placements that were less than optimal just to give people some challenge I believe. Most importantly, Eldritch Battery and Mind Over Matter had to be separated by as much distance as possible -- too obvious a synergy. As with quite a few of GGG's experiments, it didn't really go so well.

I'd be happy with Eldritch Battery and Mind Over Matter swapping places, give or take, but the flavour text for Eldritch Battery doesn't really fit a Duelist.

Eh, whatever.


I'm in support of this idea.


Swapping them would be a very, very terrible idea and ruin a lot of builds.

Think about it before you say it is a good idea to swap them.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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ScrotieMcB a écrit :
I'd change Cloak of Defiance to "When hit, 20% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life," remove MoM from the Cloak, and keep MoM as it is.


No, no, no, no... Terrible idea. Don't forget that chars that have to get between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas have no other defenses available to them except for mana (AA/MoM). This type of defense is not that good compared to others, so I wouldn't agree with nerfing it more. What needs to change IMO is the location of MoM. 10+ points is just too much, that's why everyone gets Cloak instead.
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Mom is terrible. show me one uber beater using it or even the unnerfed 40% CoD? You cant. I think there is one but he used a lightning coil too. Problem is when you get hit you're dead in the water.

Cant use movement skills cos OOM
Cant life leech cos OOM.

and next hit kills you.

Its ok for low level tho if you dont mind not being able to cast sometimes.

nerf to cloak unneeded but they do crazy stuff here sometimes.
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Dernière édition par Aim_Deep#3474, le 15 mars 2015 à 05:31:48
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DnAngel a écrit :
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ScrotieMcB a écrit :
I'd change Cloak of Defiance to "When hit, 20% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life," remove MoM from the Cloak, and keep MoM as it is.


No, no, no, no... Terrible idea. Don't forget that chars that have to get between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas have no other defenses available to them except for mana (AA/MoM). This type of defense is not that good compared to others, so I wouldn't agree with nerfing it more. What needs to change IMO is the location of MoM. 10+ points is just too much, that's why everyone gets Cloak instead.


You can be immune to all elemental damage with nodes "between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas"

You can be chaos immune with nodes "between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas"

You can have 15,000 hit points (ES) with nodes "between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas"

Supreme defense exists with nodes "between Shadow, Witch and Templar areas" so I'd never even think about using CoD let alone traipsing all the way down to MoM.
Git R Dun!
Dernière édition par Aim_Deep#3474, le 15 mars 2015 à 05:49:47
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Aim_Deep a écrit :
Mom is terrible. show me one uber beater using it or even the unnerfed 40% CoD? You cant.


'roll eyes'

Like the whole game should be balanced around uber, LOL.

You do realize .000001% or less of all players do uber atziri right?
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
You miss point. If its bad against uber it's just less bad against lessor content but still bad.
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