Why I hate flippers...

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kamil1210 a écrit :

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Ah if everything in the world was so simple as having two players interact and that being the end of it.

You're cute, but you obviously do not understand how macro-economics work.

Aftera learning so many years about economisc i think i know how it works. But OK, plase prove that flipping in PoE is good. Also please post why my model is bad.

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

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Xavderion a écrit :

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

The liquidity of the market is much higher when flippers are involved, which means the amount of items in circulation is higher too and people can actually afford to buy stuff because they don't have to vastly underprice their items in order to make some currency.

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KG31459 a écrit :

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Xavderion a écrit :

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

The liquidity of the market is much higher when flippers are involved, which means the amount of items in circulation is higher too and people can actually afford to buy stuff because they don't have to vastly underprice their items in order to make some currency.

No. Tell me how it happens in PoE. I don't need an abstract of real world economics.

Where do these items come from that I cannot find them with the same methods a flipper uses?

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Xavderion a écrit :

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

The liquidity of the market is much higher when flippers are involved, which means the amount of items in circulation is higher too and people can actually afford to buy stuff because they don't have to vastly underprice their items in order to make some currency.

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Fatalflaw a écrit :

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Xavderion a écrit :

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

The liquidity of the market is much higher when flippers are involved, which means the amount of items in circulation is higher too and people can actually afford to buy stuff because they don't have to vastly underprice their items in order to make some currency.

I underlined the part that makes no sense. You just keep repeating that through some mystical process, the flipper brings additional items to the market.

The dagger I listed is still for sale. If the flipper had bought it, it would still be for sale, but at a much higher rate, so in reality, for the budget newbie, there would be FEWER items in circulation.

Flippers don't add anything to the market at all, they only concentrate them and cause massive inflation.

Even using your example with the dream fragments, I can guarantee someone would want it. The price would be lower, maybe a standard 2ex instead of 3.. but likewise all the things you can buy with that 2ex would also be cheaper in a flipper-free economy.

The flipper is just a middle man who hordes items, inflates the price, and takes a cut. The "liquidity service" you keep claiming they provide is not necessary or helpful with sites like poe.xyz out there. Any item the flipper collected can be just as easily bought from the original seller for far less. The flipper has provided no service here.

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Fatalflaw a écrit :

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Xavderion a écrit :

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KG31459 a écrit :

Hmm.

Explain to me again how, when I want to buy an item, a flipper increases the number of items available to me?

The liquidity of the market is much higher when flippers are involved, which means the amount of items in circulation is higher too and people can actually afford to buy stuff because they don't have to vastly underprice their items in order to make some currency.

I underlined the part that makes no sense. You just keep repeating that through some mystical process, the flipper brings additional items to the market.

The dagger I listed is still for sale. If the flipper had bought it, it would still be for sale, but at a much higher rate, so in reality, for the budget newbie, there would be FEWER items in circulation.

Flippers don't add anything to the market at all, they only concentrate them and cause massive inflation.

Even using your example with the dream fragments, I can guarantee someone would want it. The price would be lower, maybe a standard 2ex instead of 3.. but likewise all the things you can buy with that 2ex would also be cheaper in a flipper-free economy.

The flipper is just a middle man who hordes items, inflates the price, and takes a cut. The "liquidity service" you keep claiming they provide is not necessary or helpful with sites like poe.xyz out there. Any item the flipper collected can be just as easily bought from the original seller for far less. The flipper has provided no service here.